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Derelict Swissair MD-11 At JNB  
User currently offlineCFM-56 From Finland, joined Sep 2001, 239 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2070 times:

She's parked outside on of SAA's hangars,I saw the jet last week as we departed from 03L..didn't get any reg but it looked as if it was stranded there since last year.Sad indeed,anyone know the future for this particular MD?

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User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2021 times:

HB-IWR is impounded at JNB as far as I know.

Regards,
Frederic


User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 2, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2011 times:

Does anyone know why the aircraft is in JNB and not in Mojave as all others not used by Swiss anymore?


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User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2001 times:

I just checked Bill Harm's website, and he clearly writes 'impounded'. So maybe by someone who still has to get money or so? Just a guess...

Regards,
Frederic


User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 4, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1986 times:

If I'm not mistaken they blocked a SR M11 in JNB around the 02 October (SR grounding). Frederic could be right, the last picture entry date for HB-IWR is August 2001. Could it be that HB-IWR never returned to ZRH after the SR grounding?


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User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1973 times:

the last picture entry date for HB-IWR is August 2001

Same on planepictures. August 2001.

/Frederic


User currently offlineSr3496 From Switzerland, joined May 2000, 792 posts, RR: 20
Reply 6, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1834 times:

AFAIK: The plane never returned to ZRH.

User currently offlineAviationMaster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1815 times:

Does anyone know what they will do to it?

User currently offlineGerardo From Spain, joined May 2000, 3481 posts, RR: 30
Reply 8, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1816 times:

It's still the same MD-11, HB-IWR "Bern", which is impounded at JNB. The reason are open accounts between Swissair and SAA maintenance (don't know the exact name of this company).

One problem is to find out, who the real owner of this MD-11 is. The same goes more or less for all former Swissair aircraft not operated by SWISS anymore, according to the SAirGroup administrator.

I'm not an expert on this, but in my opinion, this MD-11 will sit a long time there without finding any solution. The SAirGroup administrator can't pay a full open bill, as this would be a preference of a creditor. Instead he will have to pay the same percentage of the open bills with what is left.

Gerardo



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