Fly_emirates From United Arab Emirates, joined Oct 2000, 1046 posts, RR: 8 Posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4949 times:
Today DXB-LHR, was working this flight on first class, i walk to the back of the plane, then was holding a tray that had a duty free product and talking to a passenger who was seated, some other passenger comes and Taps my back so hard as a way of grabbing attention, i was so freaked out and almost smashed the tray into his face as a defense mechanism, but thank god, i just turned around and looked at him, he was smiling in a way that indicated he knew he wasn't supposed to do that. I couldn't help it, and tried to act in a proffessional way. so i said "Sir, can i ask you a question?" he said "sure" then i Said " i assume you are aware of what happend on September 11th right?" he said "yes", so i said "sir, please, and please and please, Never touch a flight attendant again, i almost thought you are attacking me, and some other ones might have responded in a defense mechanism" he smiled and said he was sorry.
Trickijedi From United States of America, joined May 2001, 3266 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4495 times:
I think what you mean is to not touch flight attendants improperly.
I myself am one of those people who, when I try to get someone's attention or ask for favors, usually puts a gentle hand on a shoulder or any place that people would find to be non-offensive. I've always thought of it a kind, charismatic gesture. I also usually do this whenever I say thank you, especially if I notice that the other person goes out of his/her way. I feel that it adds more to the words. From my experience, most people appreciate it.
Fly_Emirates, I can see where your're coming from with your incident however. From what you described, it seems like this guy tapped you kinda hard - and rudely at that. I probably would have reacted the same way. I'm sure had he been a little more on the gentle side, you probably would have appreciated his demeanor.
Its better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air than be in the air wishing you were on the ground. Fly safe!
Elwood64151 From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 2477 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4270 times:
It is obvious to me that you do not often visit Hooters. I am a well regarded regular at the one near my home, and were I to touch a Hooters Girl in any way other than a hand on her fore-arm while making a joke or asking for coffee, I'd be (not so) kindly asked to leave.
As for Hooters Air, I think it's dead anyway. HOA's CEO doesn't want to spend the money on the kind of flight certificate he wants.
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it in summer school.
Travatl From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2174 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4208 times:
This is funny actually...just last week we were having this discussion in the galley about how much we HATE being touched by the public. It is rude, and our close quarter defense training is very specific about reacting to nonseen passengers getting our attention.
We give you our names during the announcements. Feel free to use them. "Excuse me", "Pardon Me", even "Hey!" are preferred to touching us.
In any case, not long after this discussion, a business class pax was coming forward to use the restroom. One of the girls I was flying with, had her back to the aisle, and was partially blocking his way. He put his hand in the middle of her back and kinda moved her forward. She spun around and stepped back and away from him. I said "Sir, please don't touch flight attendants". He thought I was kidding...and to prove it, reached out to touch my arm, which I jerked back and reiterated.."SIR, DO NOT TOUCH US". He, of course, was suddenly bent out of shape, rolled his eyes, and went into the bathroom.
What is the problem with this? It is not paranoia. This is a completely different world we live in. And if every flight attendant who didn't like being touched on an aircraft suddenly "went and found a new job", I assure you, there would only be 5% of the workforce left.
Before you criticize us, walk a mile in our shoes first. I am not one of those who walks around with a chip on my shoulder toward passengers, or beat the "WEAREHEREFORYOURSAFETYONLY!" drum, nor do I prescribe to the "Flight attendants are here to save your ass, not kiss it" mantra. I am professional, nice, accomodating, and very customer service oriented. That however does not give you or any other passenger the right to talk to me in any manner you see fit, nor to TOUCH, GRAB, or GROPE me.....
and as for the "fly-emirates"...you should've wacked him with the tray.....
LMML 14/32 From Malta, joined Jan 2001, 2565 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4166 times:
Extremely well said, Travatl. The British charter passengers have this extremely rude habit. How I despise it when I am touched or called "Luv". Worse still when I am whistled at or when pax snap their fingers. What do they think we are? Their pet? Normally I simply give such pax a look of disapproval and move on.
We work in a confined environment with very little unoccupied space. Our private space is constantly invaded unavoidably. Deliberate physical simply to draw attention is unacceptable. You have call buttons - use them. And don't you all complain how cramped airplane seats are? Take a walk to the galley - it will do you good.
You are right Fly_Emirates. It is outright rude and hostile to touch a flight attendant.
Fly_emirates From United Arab Emirates, joined Oct 2000, 1046 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3969 times:
Now i am Arabic, and from the United Arab Emirates, how could i be racist against people of my own race? give me a good explanation here
now i might not be aware that you might be one of my legal guardians to tell me if i should find another job! i have been doing it for six years, and i try to be nice to passengers, except this time when he tapped my back and not my shoulders, if that tapping was on my shoulders, i might have been ok.
we dont put our name tags on our asses!
: and one thing more to you guys who think i am being paranoid, you might not be aware that one time before september 11, i have been attacked by a pass
: now deltadutchdude, i was kinda wondering, if i touched a flight attendant on KLM the same way that passenger did to Fly_emirates, what would the resp
: guys who think that Fly_emirates are paranoid... you have to think about cultural customs, touching in some cultures is non welcome, especially if fro
: I agree with Fly_emirates, you should not touch FA's. Not only is it sort of threatening, it's just plain rude. I mean, I know I don't like strange pe
: This all reminds me of a time when the passenger seated next to me in J class smacked a gorgeous SIA stewardess on her ass and she sort gasped and loo
: A flight attendant is trained to be, and is expected to be, both by the airline and the passengers, trained to keep his/her cool when things get rough
: hmmmm, how nice! why dont you work as some one who is a counselor so that you tell people what job they should take?
: Now i am Arabic, and from the United Arab Emirates, how could i be racist against people of my own race? give me a good explanation here Five letters
: Absolutely no touching allowed. I remember a couple of Japanese gentlement on a SQ flight to SIN got arrested for it once - highly inappropriate touch
: Fly_Emirates... Seems like U guys have rowdy pax... I was thrown back to my seat once by one of you guys... But that was because I was strangling anot
: "Never Touch A Flight Attendant ... " Couldn't agree more, stay well away. Last time I touched one I got crabs !!!!
: Hey... Calm down everyone... I think nobody in ANY job loves to be touched, especially in the back ! However, I touch a FA back every time I can ! Jus
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: Fly_Emirates said: ....i have been attacked by a passenger on first class who grabbed me from my neck tie and pushed me to the Cabin door before depar
: no he wasnt drunk. he just did it, he was taken off the flight
: i dont know the policy on that situation, but i would of opened up a can of whoop ass on him
: Do you touch police officers? No? Well, they are also responsible for your safety. Cabin crew has an extra task, and that is serving you, but their MA
: As a policy, I agree with not touching. It can be offensive even when entirely innocent. Frequently, however, because of the noise in the cabin I've '
: Call me paranoid but if someone did that to me at my work I propably would snap and give a gentle punch somewhere. I hate when people do that. And spe
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: Let's say a flight attendant touches a passenger. And this passenger happens to sue the airline. It will make the headlines and the airline will discr
: I'm sure if Fly_Emirates would have had his nametag on his ass, that person would not have grabbed him and probably would have said "Excuse me, ______
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: Greg, dont you think that your two posts are totally opposite! well i am not surprized that you got the answer from a flight attendant on UAL, but the
: Yeah F/A's touch me all the time. Not because I am really attractive but to get my attention as this person did with you.
: Hey Guys, i AGREE 110% with the Flight Attendants and those that said Touching is a no no.... As i am a waiter and also a grocery assisteant, i frequn
: I often times find myself getting hit by F/A's. Yep thats right hit during their extreme drag racing the the food and beverage cart! I tell ya, its no
: Brian/Mike, I agree with you 100% on this. However, I must confess on my last SQ flight from SIN - SYD the FA forget to serve myself and the person ne
: Fly_Emirates, you should of got that tray and wacked him accross the face with it! that will teach him a lesson! And by the way...what did yhe want??
: That's true Brent! When I waved to a flight attendant, but she didn't see me. Then I grapped her arms so hard and said u forgot to give me a duty-free
: People in the USA "own" some 10 square feet around theirselves... When they go overseas they dont realize others attract attention by touching arm or
: Hint of Sarcasm Dash8King... Gosh! *Sigh...* Mike
: Skipper with all respect, the flight attendant in this situation is a native of Dubai, U.A.E. Is there a reason you neglected the fact of Fly_Emirates
: Speaking of touching a f/a ... Dose anyone know the difference between a bowling ball and a United f/a ??? You can only get 3 fingers in a bowling bal
: Fly_emirates: Hi, there! I just sent you an e-mail. Could you please reply? Thanks Regards, BBADXB