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Safest Planes In The World  
User currently offlineAirafrique From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 139 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2689 times:

What is/are the safest airliners in the whole world ?

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User currently offlineArrow From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 2676 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2669 times:

Dash 8. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think anyone has been killed, or seriously hurt, on a Dash 8. And it's been hauling people around for nearly 20 years.


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User currently offlineAJ From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 2397 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2656 times:

Arrow, Dash 8s have had several fatal accidents; Ansett New Zealand, Bangkok Airways and Lufthansa Cityline have all unfortunately suffered Dash 8 hull losses resulting in fatalities.

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The safety of an airliner is not determined just by the manufacturer, but also by the operator and maintainer. Some aircraft are operated accident free by one operator but not by another, and lightning does strike twice (ie. TAM Fokker 100s).
It always seems to be tempting fate by naming 'safest airliner' or 'safest airline' titles.


User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1984 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2647 times:

The 777 has never crashed, so with 0 fatalities, the currently safest airliner is this aircraft. Also, I don't know of very many 747-400's to crash with a fatality. Anyone know if there have been?


My posts/replies are strictly my opinion and not that of any company, organization, or Southwest Airlines.
User currently offlineAJ From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 2397 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2644 times:

QANTAS747-438, the SQ6 accident in Taipei involved a B747-412.

User currently offlineNewSwissair From Switzerland, joined Nov 2001, 282 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2645 times:

Il-86, 20 years in service, one crash in Moscow.

User currently offlineB747skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2639 times:

I hate statistics -
A person who stays home will never be killed by a car on the streets -
xxx
Compare the early statistics of DC-10 and L-1011, both types were quite comparable, and looked bad for the DC-10...
xxx
Bad airlines, bad pilots, bad airplanes...
I do not know where the answer is, look at statistics...
xxx
I am a pilot with airplanes having 3 crewmembers - pilot, copilot, engineer, and with 4 engines... anything less than 3 crewmembers and 4 engines looks bad to me - but dont worry, I retire in 6 years... then everyone will be with only 2 pilots and 2 engines...
xxx
I personally avoid what is called "commuter-express-connection" type planes.
In a few words anything smaller than 737, DC9 or A320...
(s) Skipper


User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1984 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2626 times:

Oh yeah, I totally forgot about the SQ flight bound for LAX.


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User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 8, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2590 times:

Would also go for the Boeing 777 (200 and 300 Series) ...

But statistics doesn't say much ...



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User currently offlineFritzi From United Arab Emirates, joined Jun 2001, 2762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2588 times:

The A340 has also never had a fatal accident. The only hull losses have been the AF 340 which caught fire on the ground (during MX??) and the Srilankan which was blown up by rebbels.


User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2580 times:

AN-225, never crashed  Nuts

User currently offlineBackfire From Germany, joined Oct 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2534 times:

Can't think of a 757 accident off the top of my head that was directly attributable to the aircraft, as opposed to external factors.

User currently offlineDutchDeltaDude From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2533 times:

Wasn't there an A340 prototype crash near Paris?

User currently offlineScorpio From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 5052 posts, RR: 44
Reply 13, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2520 times:

DutchDeltaDude,

Wasn't there an A340 prototype crash near Paris?

No.


User currently offlineElwood64151 From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 2477 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2513 times:

I love it when people ask which aircraft/airline/whatever is safest. The fact of the matter is, you're safer in an airplane than you are alone in your house with the doors locked and the gas turned off and the burglar alarm on.

No one aircraft is safer than any other. There haven't been any fatalities with the 717, but that doesn't mean it's safer than the A318, the 735/6, or the F.100.

Were I to place my bet on safest aircraft? I wouldn't. There's no one right answer. If you consider the number of crashes, then I'm sure there are a couple of designs that have not crashed. If you're talking a ratio of passengers to crashes, then I'm sure the 777 is numero uno. If you're talking copies to number lost in peacetime, then we're talking DC-3, easily.

There's just no right answer.



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User currently offlineLionel From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 391 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2511 times:

Wasn't there an A340 prototype crash near Paris?

Yes and No, F-GNIA burned out on 20.1.94 at CDG during taxi!

You allways have to compare the flying hours and accidents! For example the B737 had many accidents but it isn't a unsafe plane!


User currently offlineUal777contrail From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2485 times:

QANTAS,
united had a 747-400 take off from I believe NRT and hit severe turbulence and it killed one girl onboard.


ual 777 contrail


User currently offlineApuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3032 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2478 times:

DutchDeltaDude: Maybe you're referring to the A320 that crashed into the woods?

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User currently offlineArrow From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 2676 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2459 times:

AJ --

Thanks for that -- I was unaware of those Dash 8 crashes. I guess the best way to assess is on a miles-flown basis -- but it still produces a rather meaningless comparison.



Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 22
Reply 19, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2411 times:

Backfire,

In '96 a 757 from a turkish charter airline crashed shortly after take of from the Domenican Republic. All people onboard (German tourists) were killed.



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User currently offlineFritzi From United Arab Emirates, joined Jun 2001, 2762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2382 times:

DutchDeltaDude,
It was a A330 that crashed on a test flight due to a stall from which the crew failed to recover from.


User currently offlineFritzi From United Arab Emirates, joined Jun 2001, 2762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2381 times:

DutchDeltaDude,
It was a A330 that crashed on a test flight due to a stall from which the crew failed to recover.



User currently offlineFritzi From United Arab Emirates, joined Jun 2001, 2762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2380 times:

Whoops!
Sorry for the double.


User currently offlineJAL From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 5093 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2365 times:

The 777 has yet to have a single accident. Then again it is a very new aicraft.


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User currently offlineBackfire From Germany, joined Oct 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2326 times:

Manni,

I'm aware of the Dominican Republic accident, but the aircraft was not at fault. It was essentially a failure to check the aircraft was airworthy before departure.

The 757's pitot tube had been blocked while on the ground, and not cleared prior to take-off, which meant that it was unable to provide correct information to the crew -- the pilot responded to the information given, with the resulting loss of the aircraft.


25 Post contains links and images Teva : The winner is, with no doubt: The dassault Mercure. No more in use; No accident at all. View Large View MediumPhoto © Don Gilham View Large View
26 Rick : I cannot believe no one mentioned the MD-88. No, this plane is not really an MD 80 because when the MD88 was certified, it was given a whole new certi
27 Hkgspotter1 : The A340 that burned out in Paris was parked for the night. It was ground crew that started the fire, just like the 747 they burned down !!
28 A388 : Fritzi, I don't remember any fatal A330 crashes. I think you are referring to the A320 which crashed into the woods? A388
29 AJ : An A330 (-300?) prototype was lost during a demonstration flight to Thai International at Toulouse.
30 Lubcha132 : hey let's look at it this way Incidents/Accidents per X number of flights
31 Post contains links Mr AirNZ : A330-321: F-WWKH (MSN 42) W/O 30JUN94 - TOULOUSE, FRANCE http://www.bird.ch/bharms/airbus/A330_t_0.htm
32 Cloudy : There is another factor which skews the stats in favor of the A-340 and 777 - the vast majority of accidents happen during takeoff or landing. A large
33 Hoons90 : I would think.. A340 too. Wasn't there an AA 757 accident sometime in the early 90's in South America?
34 Teva : Even if I maitain my vote for the Mercure, I would like to point something. After the analysis of the causes, you will discover that the vast majotity
35 Ual777contrail : cloudy, you said the 777's do more long hauls and not so many take offs and landings, well how do you explain UNITED's 777's? We do DEN-ORD,LAX-DEN,IA
36 Post contains images EGGD : Ual777contrail - don't understand your reasoning at all. Are you seriously trying to suggest that the 777 does the same amount of cycles as an MD-88 o
37 Areopagus : Wasn't there an AA 757 accident sometime in the early 90's in South America? December 20, 1995 near Cali, Columbia. The pilots messed up their navigat
38 Alessandro : My votes go to, SAAB 2000 (turbo-prop), no deaths so far and 63 made (2 write-offs), flying since 1994. Boeing 777 (jet sub-sonic), no deaths so far a
39 Heavymetal : I think considering it has 20 years of operation behind it, the fact that the 757 has never been lost in a situation that people didn't lose it for th
40 Wn700driver : And oddly enough Heavy, it's big brother, 762/3/4 has things like uncommanded reverser deployment (in flight no less --Lauda--) happen.
41 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : The Lauda in-flight reversal incident was the result of an engine strike which was "repaired" without ever removing the engine from its pylon nor airf
42 Cloudy : Allesandro, I would not call the Concord more safe than average... with only 20 made there is no real basis for a valid statistical comparison. But le
43 NWA742 : I know the 744 has never had a crash where it was a failure of the aircraft. For instance, many died in the SIA accident, but it was pilot error. Also
44 Post contains images Superfly : The Airbus Industrie Airbus A300B4-608ST Super Transporter
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