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US Domestic Services, Single Or Double Class?  
User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1484 times:

I've flown in the US a few times, with Delta, UAL and NWA. Those were two class flights. A small comfy F class in front for high paid folks and FF upgrades I guess. However many flights have only one cabin class.

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How is it organsized; is this single class somewhere between coach & F or is it basicly coach & do you have to pay for everything except drinks & nuts ?


Do all "express" flights have a single cabin class only ?

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User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1461 times:

I do not know since I haven't flown US domestics in F but in Europe they are basically just Y seats with better service, lounge and recently, even the food is just normal... Well at least that is with many airlines like bmi, swiss etc

User currently offlineMia777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2002, 1165 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1433 times:

all of the low cost carriers (i.e. Southwest, AirTran, JetBlue etc.) have only one class. You do not get meals on these flights (and I don't think you can pay for one anways)...all of the mainline flights have two classes...soemtimes these flights serve meals however with the cost setbacks, I think they are a lot less frequent. I would say all express flights are single class.

I have not flown AirTran or Southwest but JetBlue has more of that "in between" type service...leather seats, PTVs, etc. I think Southwest is just "coach." Hope this is the answer to what you we're trying to ask...

MIA777



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User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7811 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1433 times:

Basically, US Domestic mainline flights on most airlines will have a first class cabin, typically 8 to 24 seats depending on the aircraft and airline configuration. Commuter flights on the turboprops and regional jets generally do not. But there are some exceptions. NWAirlink (Mesaba) Avros have a F cabin, and America West Express (Mesa Air) CRJ-700/900s will have a small F section... this is generally to reduce the number of overall seats in order to meet scope clause issues.


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User currently offlineDoug_Or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3442 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1409 times:

come to think of it, do any US carriers charge for anything but movies 'n' booze?


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User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7811 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1401 times:

Doug_Or: Not any I can think of. PeoplesExpress did... but now that seems to be the domain of the European LCCs.




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User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1399 times:

Is single class a result of short flight time & small aircraft capasity or do the majors also have longer flights with larger single class aircraft ?

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I flew LAX-SFO with UAL Express a few yrs ago on a 737 which was a very short flight, do you get meals on longer flights or can you buy them ?

More in general ; what is the single class policy of the UA, AA, CO, NW, US ?


User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7811 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1389 times:

United Shuttle, Delta Express, and USAirways Metrojet were specialized products designed to compete with Southwest... typically in lower yield markets. As a result aircraft were reconfigured to single class cabins with simplified galleys that could dispense snack mix and Coke. Only Delta Express still exists today. Typically these flights were not much longer than 2 hours.


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User currently offlineTrickijedi From United States of America, joined May 2001, 3266 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1390 times:

ATA also has a single-class configuration.

And yes, all "express", non-mainline route aircraft usually have a single-class configuration as well. Well, I can't think of one that doesn't anyway.



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User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4616 posts, RR: 23
Reply 9, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1334 times:

Just a correction, AirTran does in fact have a two-class cabin. Jet Connect will be one class though.

User currently offlineSjc>sfo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1305 times:

United Shuttle was actually configured with 8 first class seats.... so, it really wasn't 1 class.

User currently offlineElwood64151 From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 2477 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1277 times:

Single class US airlines that a European might actually fly:

Southwest, JetBlue***, Midwest Express*.

Two-class US low-cost/low-fares that a European might actually fly:

America West**, Frontier, AirTran, Spirit.

Two-class US low-cost/low-fares that are now defunct:

Vanguard, National.

Major two-class US carriers:

Alaska, American, Continental, Delta, Northwest, United, USAirways.

In the US, expect to pay GOBS of money for a first class ticket, unless you're flying MidWest Express, which serves only about 30 markets.

* Midwest Express is first-class only.

** America West is was started as a low-cost/low-fare but now operates as a major carrier.

*** JetBlue's coach class seating is more similar to European style First class seating, though they are still coach seats.



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