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£65 Transatlantic One Way- New No Frills Airline!  
User currently offlineAmmunition From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2002, 1065 posts, RR: 4
Posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4256 times:

Reading the paper this morning i came across an article that mentioned a new american based airline which will offer standard one way transatantic fares of £100, and 30% of seats for £65. They will also auction 20-30 seats a couple hours before departure online.
The airline will operate from london stansted (i think) to florida. The livery will be the colours of an american school bus, black and yellow!
The airline will operate 2 294 (i think) seat aircraft.
It will be a no-frills airline, keeping costs down by selling tickets online!




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User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4249 times:

not gonna work .

User currently offlineAmmunition From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2002, 1065 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4207 times:

I dont have any more information, but if someone can find any info on it, maybe that would verify it a little.
i read it in a local newspaper, called metro! I dont have it to hand, but im sure it will be at work tonight, for the exact details.



Saint Augustine- 'The world is a book and those who do not travel, read only 1 page'
User currently offlineBarcode From Switzerland, joined Dec 2001, 678 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4118 times:

Aha. I read this this morning on the way home as well. To be truthful, I'm a little wary of flying with said company if it ever gets off the ground ... call me a stickler, but I like what is tried and trusted and who I have my frequent flyer miles with - Virgin Atlantic, UAL and British Airways.

How would this make a profit? You have to pay the employees, maintenance of the aircraft, the fuel, the food (you can't make people starve for 6 hours or more) and lots of other costs ... what on earth would the company make after selling seats for this price? Strikes me as madness, but perhaps someone will be able to offer a far more informed perspective on the issue than I can.


User currently offlineLapper From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 1563 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4065 times:

Apparently they will start with a service from Luton-Sanford-Portsmouth NH-Luton and Luton-Portsmouth-Sanford-Luton. The aircraft will be 2 767-300ERs. Food will be a cold service, with a "kiosk" for people to buy items.

The tie-in with Luton is to join up with easyJets low cost service around Europe, and Protsmouth is aimed at the possibility of joining up with Pan Am or Jet Blue.

They have already been advertising on the internet somewhere, and plan to operate under the name "Sky-Bus", however, a search on Google for that name has not come up with anything, nor anything on the Luton Airport site.


User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7360 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4004 times:
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Their website is http://www.sky-bus.com. Of particular note should be this item from their business model:

SKY-BUS EXPANDED OPERATIONS

Within 3 years $250MM sales US carrier to European and Asian destinations with all next generation Boeing 767-500 ER fleet. Linking Virgin Airlines (Australia), China National, EasyJet with JetBlue and Pan Am domestic USA networks.


Anyone know when the 767-500 was launched?

David


User currently offlineVoodoo From Niue, joined Mar 2001, 2070 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3987 times:

Luton doesn't have the longest runway in the world ... not sure if Florida flights can leave there. No doubt someone can correct me if necessary.
Stansted would make more sense for low-cost tie-ins as well. Easyjet (Go) is there as well as the others.



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User currently offlineMas777 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 1999, 2935 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3972 times:

Why travel with them when you can get cheap returns with the current scheduled airlines today? £65 one-way would translate to £130 return - thats about £15 cheaper than some of the fares offered by many carriers today (KLM for example). Add the taxes and the savings are minimal. At least on KLM I would get FD points and service on-board.

Auctioning the tickets 2-3 hours before departure sounds absolutely ludicrious. Who makes a decision to spontaneously fly to Sanford or indeed Portsmouth and be on-line at the time. Imagine the rush to pack afterwards (once you were successful in obtaining the tickets) and the traffic to get to Luton.


User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 34
Reply 8, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3916 times:

Ya, I was going to say the same: 65 GBP o/w plus tax translates as 170 GBP/250 EUR/USD rtn including taxes. And that´s the level one can get today with a little effort.

Daniel Smile


User currently offlineLapper From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 1563 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3914 times:

From reading the site, it looks like the auction will take place at the airport and will be based on seat/row number. It is available to hand-baggage passengers only.

Also, have you seen this:

2 groups of 6 seats adaptable to seat 8 children 14 & Under

Lutons runway is 2160 metres, and currently can handle 763s operated by Britannia.

Lastly:


Looks like its been lifted from the boeing site, and clearly says 767-400!!!


User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6659 posts, RR: 22
Reply 10, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3905 times:

It's a hoax/virtual airline.

User currently offlineTurin_airport From Italy, joined Oct 2001, 278 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3889 times:

Please, guys, press the "Ready for some fun?" link at the bottom of the site home page and try your own conclusions...

T_a


P.S.: could it be a A.net member who established this airline?  Smile


User currently offlineN175dz From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2000, 274 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3811 times:

Mmmm. Could be my imagintion, but take a look at the seating plan on the sky-bus website and then take a look at the plan for a US Airways 767-200ER at http://www.usairways.com/about/aircraft/767/index.htm.

Notice any similarity?

This whole thing does seem rather bizzare, but I too have read about it in the papers this morning.

cheers, Phil.



User currently offlineN175dz From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2000, 274 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3809 times:

Sorry - seating plan link...

http://www.sky-bus.com/seating_layout_b767er.htm


User currently offlineLBA From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3782 times:

It's not April 1st already is it? The website looks like it's been designed by a pre-school child with an interest in airlines!

User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4692 posts, RR: 43
Reply 15, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3761 times:

Here is some information from the whois domain owner search for sky-bus.com:

Registrant Contact:
Noah Systems Limited
Jonathan Aslett (domains@noahsystems.fsbusiness.co.uk)
01524 388312
FAX: 01524 581309
33 Austwick Road
Lancaster, LA1 2QY
GB

Administrative Contact:
Noah Systems Limited
Jonathan Aslett (domains@noahsystems.fsbusiness.co.uk)
01524 388312
FAX: 01524 581309
33 Austwick Road
Lancaster, LA1 2QY
GB

Maybe someone here wants to inquire further - I would be very interesting in the results!  Smile





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User currently offlineLapper From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 1563 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3700 times:

This has also been detailed in the trade press, Travel Weekly and TTG, so if it is a hoax, then it is a very elaborate one. I agree that the website is very poor at the moment, but unitl they get the proper funding, that is as much as it will strech to I reckon.

User currently offlineBackfire From Germany, joined Oct 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3645 times:

Oh dear,

This director of SkyBus (Jonathan Aslett) is not all he appears. Do you think this explains the photo mentioned earlier.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1515539.stm

You heard it first from ol' Backfire  Big grin



User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 18, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3608 times:

How would this make a profit? You have to pay the employees, maintenance of the aircraft, the fuel, and lots of other costs

Well, maybe they are like Nationscare from Canada, and won't pay their employees, wont maintain their planes and will just fly them until they drop.

the food (you can't make people starve for 6 hours or more)

Oh, they might do just that, food is not mandatory, they can leave that up the passengers to bring their own.

Jeremy


User currently offlineVfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3954 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3588 times:

Folks, just check the website - if this is for real, I am Santa Claus.

User currently offlineBackfire From Germany, joined Oct 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3585 times:

You're not listening, guys and gals. Click the link three posts above this one.

User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 53
Reply 21, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3584 times:

Southwest has no food on BWI-LAX nonstop, which is pretty long, only an hour or two shorter than a pond hop...

That pic with the kids on the bus...this guy is definitely a little itsy-bitsy disturbed...

Backfire...ROFLMAO!

This has to be a hoax...bring your own radio? Turning that on in a plane probably violates half a dozen FCC rules, the FAA would never allow a carrier with rules like that to fly in the US...

Greg



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User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 22, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3577 times:

The other thing that bothers me about this, is that their press release and webpage is full of spelling mistakes, not exactly professional

Jeremy


User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3562 times:

Once flew BA to JFK for 85 quid each way (2 years ago), and there have been flights to the USA for 99 quid (total), although this was just after 9/11.

Rgds


User currently offlineElwood64151 From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 2477 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3469 times:

If this is the same guy, I hope they bring him here (US) and toss his @$$ in jail. After all, no one in the US who works for an airline can be convicted of that. That would negate him being Pres & CEO. Even as owner.

I hope this is a hoax.



Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it in summer school.
25 Post contains images LOT767-300ER : Portsmouth New Hampshire! BWHAHAHAHH GOOD ONE!!!!!!!!!!! Im going to start Topeka-Frankfurt
26 Twalives : I searched hoovers (business search service) and there was no record of sky-bus or Noah Systems Ltd. It's possible the company hasn't yet filed for le
27 Backfire : I can assure you that the guy on the BBC article and the fellow behind the "airline" are one and the same person.
28 Meechy36 : 4 Lavs for 300 people, the lines are going to horrible. Mike-BOS
29 Arsenal@LHR : 294 seats in a 767-300? No thanks! I'll stick to BA,UA and Co.
30 AA61hvy : that site looks like joe blow 9 year old put it up. it doesnt look official at all
31 BH346 : Do they even have seats or do you have to sit on the floor?
32 Post contains images Arsenal@LHR : Maybe another ryanair in the making
33 Capt.Picard : ...the difference being Ryanair has massive profits to show...this airline hasn't even got off the ground yet!
34 Blink182 : Did April fools come early this year? I think its a huge joke, joke or no joke, I am not sure this airline will get off the ground, much less likely t
35 AirT85 : Since when is Pan Am "flourishing" and jetBlue fly to Portsmouth?? Tony
36 Deedee : I heard about this company on www.climbto350.com Postings for lots of jobs - Director Maintenance etc under Jobs Board- Is this for real??
37 GDB : It may be a hoax, but it's been seriously reported in the press.
38 Backfire : I suspect that's because the press didn't read the BBC story...
39 BDRules : Backfire, its quite strange that it was reported on BBC Radio so they all have the same information. I dont think its a hoax but an unreallistic ventu
40 Backfire : Agreed, it does sound reasonbly convincing (the plan was to use ex-SAS 767 but they're PW powered and it's too much effort to put them on the UK regis
41 Post contains images Aguimar01464 : hoax or not i'ts definely giving myself some good laughs, look at their job posting.i mean i don't know on what to believe now............... November
42 USAFHummer : Someone should apply just for the hell of it and see what happens...there must be a way to get more solid info on this...disgrace of an airline... Gre
43 Post contains images Lapper : Backfire, your story regarding Jonathan Aslett is reported in tonights Evening Standard, quite interesting how it said that IT had traced the man to a
44 Brons2 : Agreed, it does sound reasonbly convincing (the plan was to use ex-SAS 767 but they're PW powered and it's too much effort to put them on the UK regis
45 Post contains images Aguimar01464 : guys take a look at this found on an airline news forum SKY-BUS INTL, UK plans July 1 startup of Luton-Portsmouth, NH (-Orlando in Aug.) with leased 7
46 Backfire : I've never suggested it was a hoax...I suspect there's at least an idea, but I'm not convinced it's going to go far.
47 Srbmod : This has to be a hoax, or at the very least, a way to scam some folks out of some cash. Nobody, even the big boys could make such a cheap fare concept
48 SegmentKing : I've worked for 1 start up and 1 carrier going through Part 135 transition, and I can tell you, working on their website and with the lawyers, officer
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