PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 6867 posts, RR: 29 Posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2259 times:
The tenative new summer Atlantic/Pacific schedule is out.
New service includes:
JFK-FCO (Rome, Italy) Starts 5/1/03
JFK-BCN (Barcelona, Spain) Starts 6/1/03
DFW-NRT (2nd flight upgraded to Daily) Starts 6/1/03
LAX-NRT (previously announced) Starts 4/1/03
Note that all 763's will be in 2-class configuration in 212 30J/182Y config.
LHR will go all 777
Redraider From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 531 posts, RR: 2 Reply 1, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2226 times:
Is Barcelona code-shared with Iberia?
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My wife can't wrestle, but you should see her box.
PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 6867 posts, RR: 29 Reply 2, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2203 times:
Redraider From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 531 posts, RR: 2 Reply 3, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2191 times:
I gathered that, but will Iberia code share on the flight?
My wife can't wrestle, but you should see her box.
Alitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4657 posts, RR: 45 Reply 4, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2096 times:
With their JFK-FCO service, that will bring total daily flights from JFK to FCO up to 4 services:
DL 148/AZ 7615
AZ 611/DL 7611
AZ 609
And now the AA service. I wonder how successful this route will be and if AZ will allow more competition on their prized route...
Alitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4657 posts, RR: 45 Reply 6, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1996 times:
Donder,
The AZ 772 flight is from FCO....
AZ 611 is the flight number that the 777 will operate.
Alpere1 From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 134 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1943 times:
Iberia will likely codeshare with AA on the JFK-BCN route, IB pulled out of the BCN-JFK route almost two years ago dued to very low load factors, I wonder why does AA think they'll make it better? Time will tell..
Cmk10 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 513 posts, RR: 4 Reply 9, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1910 times:
This is great to see, the more AA flies, the better. Possibly because of this news of this AMR stock went up $0.12 to $6.40.
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MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31115 posts, RR: 74 Reply 10, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1904 times:
Iberia will likely codeshare with AA on the JFK-BCN route, IB pulled out of the BCN-JFK route almost two years ago dued to very low load factors, I wonder why does AA think they'll make it better? Time will tell.
Flight was discontinued about a year ago. Loads were very light, averaging about half-full, although cargo was good. Most US-Barcelona traffic is US-originating, so AA has the upperhand with that. Iberia has been wanting to open up MIA-BCN for a while, but has been unable as the lack of US-ES Open Skies has restricted them from that. Hopefully that will change.
OzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4680 posts, RR: 23 Reply 12, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1855 times:
ex-TWA routes out of JFK. Maybe they will take AAdvantage of TWA's vast authorities in their bid to increase international flying. Does anyone have a list of TWA's authority that is still current under AA ownership?
PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 6867 posts, RR: 29 Reply 13, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1843 times:
Thanks man.....I was gonna say, what did it get deleted for. There is so much other garbage that gets by on this site and I actually post something factual and it gets deleted....oh well, thanks for bringing it back.
Back to the other comments from earlier. CDG in the past had always been primarily all 763. Within the past year DFW-CDG has been upgraded to a 777 along with occasionally one of the JFK-CDG routes. However, the reconfigured 763's suit CDG better as the 777's will be needed for LHR when it goes all 777 in order to have 3-class aircraft operating all flights. Traditionally, BOS, EWR, and some JFK-LHR flight have been operated by the 763's.
The DFW-CDG schedule:
AA 124 DFW CDG 3:00pm 7:30am 763 Starts 6/1/03
AA 48 DFW CDG 5:30pm 10:00am 763
AA 49 CDG DFW 10:50am 2:35pm 763
AA 125 CDG DFW 3:05pm 6:40pm 763 Starts 6/2/03
AA767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2271 posts, RR: 25 Reply 14, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1698 times:
AA Will start the following routes in December.
got it from sabre.
JFK-SJO twice a week (757-A300)
JFK-LRM once a week (757)
JFK-POS twice a week (757)
DutchDeltaDude From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1658 times:
I keep on wondering why AA doesn't fly to AMS.
NW, CO, DL, UA and US are all fly to The Netherlands.
And nobody is flying AMS-DFW. Sounds like a good route for AA.
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16252 posts, RR: 52 Reply 16, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 1552 times:
Im looking foward to AA 777s at EWR, alongside CO and UAL's.
Blink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5430 posts, RR: 19 Reply 17, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1516 times:
DutchDeltaDude(nice name btw),
There are already 2 dailies to IAH from AMS, I am not sure Texas needs a 3rd daily to The Netherlands. I am sure if anybody from the Dallas/Ft.Worth area needed to get to AMS or anybody from The Netherlands needed to get to the DFW area, they would go through IAH, and evidently, the need for DFW service is not strong enough to warrant a DFW flight.
What I am surprised about is how DFW-MAD is untapped. I wish Iberia or American would step in and connect two oneworld hubs.
blink
Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...
Padcrasher From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 1458 times:
The JFK-FCO start up seems odd, sort of like UA's IAD-EZE. I thought the idea was to retrench towards your stength markets. AZ/DL have NYC and Italy covered with revenue sharing, service out of EWR and JFK, as well as VCE and MXP. What US or Italian company/consolidator having significant business in this lane would move to AA? The Italians will be leveraged by AZ on other lanes out of Rome. The big US consolidators out of NYC, like Perillo Tours need service from both EWR and JFK not to mention all the other US gateways DL/AZ cover. AA will be left with their NYC FF base and some small fry accounts to make this work. I don't see it working out for them year round.
This will turn out like AA's JFK-CDG flights. After DL/AF hooked up AA decides to put in two CDG flights one a 777. Now they're down to 1 1/2 767s.
AA767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2271 posts, RR: 25 Reply 20, posted (10 years 6 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1350 times:
ContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 15 Reply 22, posted (10 years 6 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1338 times:
American has been operating six daily flights from JFK to LHR since 1991, when it acquired TWA's slots. It used to fly 2 747-SP's, two 762's, and two 763's, eventually this was changed to A300-600/B763 and B762 service but at one point, five out of six flights were being operated with MD11's.
American 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3320 posts, RR: 14 Reply 23, posted (10 years 6 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1266 times:
ContinentalEWR, the 2 747SP's used to fly to BRU. They never flew to LHR. You're right about the A300, MD-11 and B767, they have all been operated on the JFK-LHR route within the last 10 years or so. Now it's all 777.
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PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 6867 posts, RR: 29 Reply 24, posted (10 years 6 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1167 times:
This info was in an IATA filing earlier this month for the fall slot allocation conference.
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