Alpere1 From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 134 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2881 times:
Iberia will likely codeshare with AA on the JFK-BCN route, IB pulled out of the BCN-JFK route almost two years ago dued to very low load factors, I wonder why does AA think they'll make it better? Time will tell..
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33280 posts, RR: 71
Reply 10, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2842 times:
Iberia will likely codeshare with AA on the JFK-BCN route, IB pulled out of the BCN-JFK route almost two years ago dued to very low load factors, I wonder why does AA think they'll make it better? Time will tell.
Flight was discontinued about a year ago. Loads were very light, averaging about half-full, although cargo was good. Most US-Barcelona traffic is US-originating, so AA has the upperhand with that. Iberia has been wanting to open up MIA-BCN for a while, but has been unable as the lack of US-ES Open Skies has restricted them from that. Hopefully that will change.
OzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5231 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2793 times:
ex-TWA routes out of JFK. Maybe they will take AAdvantage of TWA's vast authorities in their bid to increase international flying. Does anyone have a list of TWA's authority that is still current under AA ownership?
PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7768 posts, RR: 27
Reply 13, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2781 times:
Thanks man.....I was gonna say, what did it get deleted for. There is so much other garbage that gets by on this site and I actually post something factual and it gets deleted....oh well, thanks for bringing it back.
Back to the other comments from earlier. CDG in the past had always been primarily all 763. Within the past year DFW-CDG has been upgraded to a 777 along with occasionally one of the JFK-CDG routes. However, the reconfigured 763's suit CDG better as the 777's will be needed for LHR when it goes all 777 in order to have 3-class aircraft operating all flights. Traditionally, BOS, EWR, and some JFK-LHR flight have been operated by the 763's.
The DFW-CDG schedule:
AA 124 DFW CDG 3:00pm 7:30am 763 Starts 6/1/03
AA 48 DFW CDG 5:30pm 10:00am 763
AA 49 CDG DFW 10:50am 2:35pm 763
AA 125 CDG DFW 3:05pm 6:40pm 763 Starts 6/2/03
Blink182 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 5483 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 2454 times:
DutchDeltaDude(nice name btw),
There are already 2 dailies to IAH from AMS, I am not sure Texas needs a 3rd daily to The Netherlands. I am sure if anybody from the Dallas/Ft.Worth area needed to get to AMS or anybody from The Netherlands needed to get to the DFW area, they would go through IAH, and evidently, the need for DFW service is not strong enough to warrant a DFW flight.
What I am surprised about is how DFW-MAD is untapped. I wish Iberia or American would step in and connect two oneworld hubs.
Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...
Padcrasher From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 2396 times:
The JFK-FCO start up seems odd, sort of like UA's IAD-EZE. I thought the idea was to retrench towards your stength markets. AZ/DL have NYC and Italy covered with revenue sharing, service out of EWR and JFK, as well as VCE and MXP. What US or Italian company/consolidator having significant business in this lane would move to AA? The Italians will be leveraged by AZ on other lanes out of Rome. The big US consolidators out of NYC, like Perillo Tours need service from both EWR and JFK not to mention all the other US gateways DL/AZ cover. AA will be left with their NYC FF base and some small fry accounts to make this work. I don't see it working out for them year round.
This will turn out like AA's JFK-CDG flights. After DL/AF hooked up AA decides to put in two CDG flights one a 777. Now they're down to 1 1/2 767s.
ContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 22, posted (12 years 1 month 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2276 times:
American has been operating six daily flights from JFK to LHR since 1991, when it acquired TWA's slots. It used to fly 2 747-SP's, two 762's, and two 763's, eventually this was changed to A300-600/B763 and B762 service but at one point, five out of six flights were being operated with MD11's.
American 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3996 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (12 years 1 month 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2204 times:
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ContinentalEWR, the 2 747SP's used to fly to BRU. They never flew to LHR. You're right about the A300, MD-11 and B767, they have all been operated on the JFK-LHR route within the last 10 years or so. Now it's all 777.