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Did A 8-engine Waterplane Exist?  
User currently offlineSpotterboy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1870 times:

hELLO GUYS!

I ve got a question for you... did a waterplane with 8 propellers exist around 1945 ???? please help me... Florian

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User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1837 times:

Howard Hughes's HK-1 Spruce Goose?

LY744.



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User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4575 posts, RR: 41
Reply 2, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1834 times:

Yes, built by Hughes (as in Howard Hughes, entrepreneur who became more and more of a recluse as time went by). Its official designation was the HK-1 Hercules, but it was known by its nickname, the Spruce Goose, because it was built of wood. It made one short hop, but never really flew - Hughes was said to be very dissapointed about this. It is now preserved at Long Beach, California, in the USA.


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User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1834 times:

http://www.sprucegoose.org/

LY744.



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User currently offlineSaintsman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 2065 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1718 times:

I remember visiting the Deutche museum in Munich which has a very good aviation section. There were several models of German aircraft from the pre-war era and I seem to recall some large sea planes, one of which may have had 8 engines. In fact I was surprised how many large aircraft they had in that period. Maybe someone has more info?

User currently offlineSccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5520 posts, RR: 28
Reply 5, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1615 times:

See the Dornier DO-X.



http://www.captain.at/capages/index.php?p=dox

My dad saw this plane when it came on tour to New York. Said it was awesome.



...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
User currently offlineSkymaster From Denmark, joined Apr 2001, 228 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1519 times:

The Do-X was 12 engined! Note the "push-pull" arrengement.
Skymaster


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1392 times:

I think the Germans had a couple of flying boats that pushed that 8 engine limit.

Also consider the:

B-36 6 turning 4 burning
B-50 4 turning and 4 buring

I can't remember the name of it but in the 1930's the Soviets had a big propaganda aircraft that had 8 motors. It crashed during a filming run when an escorting fighter attempted to loop around the wing and ended up taking the wing off.



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User currently offlineLZ-TLT From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1355 times:

L-188

The aircraft you refer to is the "Maxim Gorky". Designed by Michail Kalinin, it was built in the mid-30's, as discussions emerged about a replacement for the aging(by this time) russian heavy-bomber-fleet consisting still of the old TB-3. The design was nothing spectacular - it looked like a bigger copy of the TB-3 with 3 engines in each wing and two engines on the back of the fuselage arranged in a "push-pull" manner. However, the flight data improvements weren't that big, so the aircraft was reconfigured to a propaganda aircraft. The crash you cite is true. There was a second prototype which did a few flights aftter the crash, but was stored and eventually scrapped shortly afterwards.


User currently offlineRIX From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1787 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1275 times:

Here is photo of "Maxim Gorky" (ANT-20):

http://svavia.ru/media/foto/ant20.html
http://www.tupolev.ru/Russian/Picture.asp?PubID=279

Was designed by Tupolev design office in 1934, could carry 72 passengers (plus 8 crew members), cruising speed 200 km/h, maximum speed 245 km/h, wingspan 63 m. The second prototype, ANT-20bis, had redesigned fuselage and wings, more powerful engines (6, not 8), maximum speed 275 km/h, could carry 64 passengers, first flight in 1939.

http://www.tupolev.ru/Russian/Picture.asp?PubID=307

BTW, Mikhail Kalinin was one of the Soviet high rank leaders in 30's - like almost all of them, except the one, with no real power... but no Russian web site mentions name Mikhail Kalinin as a designer...


User currently offlineDoug_Or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3407 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1266 times:

. It is now preserved at Long Beach, California, in the USA.

It is actualy in McMinville, Oregon



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User currently offlineAA61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 11, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1260 times:

Correct me if im wrong but didnt this plane at one time have the biggest wing span?


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User currently offlineLZ-TLT From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1262 times:

RIX,

There was also an aircraft designer having the same family name as the well-known Kalinin. I am not 100% sure about his participation in the "Maxim Gorky" project, altough several russian books mention his name. Same with the ANT-25, which(being also Tupolev by name) was an original design of Pavel Sukhoy


User currently offlineSllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1257 times:

Here's a couple of pictures I shot of the Goose last July at the new facility:

The museum itself is light and bright, with a lot of glass...



The Goose itself...



And here, notice the Ford Trimotor under the wing...



And the tail of the beast, with a MiG-15U underneath...at this time, the rudder hadn't been re-attached yet.



You can flip through the balance of the images from that day at:

http://www.interceptor.com/~thumper/oregon/evergreen/

Steve


User currently offlineRIX From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1787 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1252 times:

LZ-TLT, thanks for correction. I can't recall if I heard this name as last time I read a Russian aviation book was definitely more than 10 years ago... About ANT-25 - from the link you provided in another thread (about biggest single-engine prop aircraft) I was amazed to know there were 20 of them delivered! I was sure about like 2 or 3... They were tested with different engines/equipment/... combinations, one of the goals was possible use as long range bombers...

User currently offlineVc10 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1411 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1235 times:

I know it is not an 8 engine flying boat, but as others have strayed from the original question ,so I think can I, by mentioning the Saunders Roe Princess Flying Boat
This old girl first flew in 1952, weighed 154 Tons, could carry up to 220 ,but in airline use it seems 105 passengers would have been more normal. Now this aircraft had 6 props and 10 engines, as the outer props only had one engine a piece, where as the other 4 props had two engines [ turbo-props] each. Saunders Roe built 3 aircraft of this type, but none ever entered airline service, and all three were scrapped in 1967

Regards little vc10


User currently offlineLHMark From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 46
Reply 16, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1225 times:

Am I mistaken, or did the Blohm und Voss Wiking flying boat have 8 engines? It was the largest flying boat of WWII. Only one was built, and it was destroyed by strafing P-51s in 1945.


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