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Raleigh Durham Questions ( AA's Pressence)  
User currently offlineFlyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1875 posts, RR: 3
Posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1262 times:

I was recently looking at some photos of Raligh Durham airport (RDU) Im 14 and i dont know how to spell that, lol. Well anyways, did AA operate international services from there? There were pictures of 767s that had captions that said that they had arrived from LGW. SO i was just wondering about AA's former, and current presence there. And what was the deal with MidWay having A320s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I never knew!!!!!!

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User currently offlineYow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1243 times:

AA still flies RDU-LGW, but now it's with a 777 instead of a 767.

User currently offlineHurricane From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1443 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1240 times:

Yes, AA still flies daily to LGW, and flew to ORY when they had a hub there, with the 762. AA will be starting daily flights to SJU with a 738 in December.
AA has extensive American Eagle ops to the northeast, and mainline service, in addition to all 4 hubs, to BOS, LGA, LGW, and will be starting service to SJU and SJC in the near future. AA did have a hub at RDU in the early 90s, but it went away in about 1995. Read more about the hub at http://airtransportbiz.free.fr/Networks/AABNARDU.html

And yes, Midway had one A320 briefly, I believe when their business model included ops to the Carribean. The routes to the Carribean and the plane didn't last long.


User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3326 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1229 times:

Midway did operate a few A320's back when it was in service. After they went undeer they brought back a few 73G's for a short time but stopped that service as well. Yes RDU-LGW used be operated by 767's and is now a 777, due to the recent American Eagle build up at RDU

User currently offlineNcflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 472 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1195 times:

AA RDU-LGW went 777 prior to the Eagle buildup I believe. I'd attribute the 777 more to the big dollar first class and b-class traveler's from Glaxxo-- that's the whole reason the flight exists. A flight attendant once told me Glaxxo subsidizes the flight by way of committing to buy a certain number of business class flights on each flight. Why else would AA run service from a non-hub to a non-hub such as that one??

User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 1114 times:

American used to operate a daily B767-200ER service from RDU to ORY (Paris-Orly Airport) in the early 1990's because Rhone Poulenc Rohrer, a French company had operations in the North Carolina area near Raleigh. The flight did not do too well but I flew it during the 1991 Gulf War, originating in CLE and it was a nice flight. I flew CLE-RDU-ORY, which was much easier and and stress-free than flying CLE-ORD-ORY or CLE-JFK-ORY.

American upgraded the RDU-LGW service to a 777 last spring and has kept it since. It used to be a 767-300ER and before that, a 767-200ER.

ContinentalEWR


User currently offlineJetskipper From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 381 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1095 times:

Did the 767 originate in Cleveland, or was it just a through flight number?

User currently offlineAA61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 7, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1078 times:

does AA still use the 767 from RDU-DFW? or did they switch it to the 777? I remember it was a continuation from LGW when they used to fly the 767


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User currently offlineJohn From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1374 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 1066 times:

It's kind of ironic that AA is once again, REBUILDING RDU. This could serve as perhaps, a milestone in the industry, where RDU could end up earning the title as America's first predominantly Regional Jet hub, by a MAJOR airline? I think this is the direction PIT is headed, with USAirways.

User currently offlineAfitch7881 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 814 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 1018 times:

A few comments-


"SJC in the near future"- Where have you heard this? Isnt AA downsizing SJC a lot? I know most of the SJC-West coast mainline cities are now down to RJ's, and in some cases (PHX) are gone. Why would they add RDU-SJC now when it seems as if SJC is taking on a role of RDU, a eagle operations hub.

"RDU could end up earning the title as America's first predominantly Regional Jet hub"

Don't you consider CLE that already? CLE has been a RJ heaven for quite a few years now, and will only get more RJ's.


Eric




User currently offlineKwbl From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 441 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 986 times:

SJC RDU was announced some time ago but I am not sure that it will go through

User currently offlineHurricane From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1443 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 966 times:

SJC was announced a few months ago. If there is one route that will work out of SJC it would be RDU, because of the high demand for seats to the high-tech areas surrounding that area. Midway operated it for a while, and I believe it was successful.

User currently offlineAfitch7881 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 814 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 916 times:

I forgot about the high technologies in both areas. I also now remember AA anoucing SJC a few months (over a year?) ago. Southwest will probably jump in and serve the market before AA however.

User currently offlineBlink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5476 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 902 times:

Is it me, or did AA never really leave RDU? They had a bigger presence there in the past, but even now it seems as if their presence at RDU is certainly noticeable.

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User currently offlineHurricane From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1443 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 853 times:

AA pretty thoroughly left RDU. At one point it had only flights to DFW, ORD, and MIA, and an Eagle Saab to JFK, not to mention the ever-present LGW flight. They have always had a foothold in the traffic out of RDU, save when Midway was at its peak. When Midway went away in the fourth quarter of last year, AA had 22% of the passengers, compared to 18% for Delta, 18% for US, and 17% for WN. The major buildup of Eagle (and mainline) was only this year, so I'm sure it's much higher now.

User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7934 posts, RR: 54
Reply 15, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 848 times:

Is Raleigh the smallest US city with a scheduled daily trans-Atlantic flight? Surely. (Other candidates may include Charlotte and Phoenix?)


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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16345 posts, RR: 86
Reply 16, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 846 times:

Greensboro, NC, for the longest time had a BA nonstop to probably Gatwick, but maybe Heathrow.

I don't know if they still do... but Greensboro-High Point-Winston Salem is a far smaller area than Raleigh.

Oh and re: SJC-RDU... Cisco alone could make up for a good load factor. Raleigh is their second largest facility.

AA announced it on Oct 1, btw.

N


User currently offlineHurricane From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1443 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 846 times:

BA no longer serves any city in North Carolina. I'm not sure about it being the smallest area.....I figure the RDU area has about 2,000,000 people, and the airport serves rural eastern North Carolina, as well as the coast, so it probably serves 3 or 4 million. But I can't think of any smaller city with transatlantic service. Charlotte's service only succedes because of the US hub, of course. Possibly the Memphis area is smaller, with KLM to AMS? I'm not positive, though.

User currently offlineAA61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 18, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 834 times:

does ba still serve clt with a 767?


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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16345 posts, RR: 86
Reply 19, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 833 times:

They recently announced they were discontinuing it... but I have no idea if they have yet.

N


User currently offlineGsoflyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1093 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (11 years 5 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 789 times:

gigneil.....

WRONG.

Greensboro/High Point/Winston-Salem has ALWAYS been a larger area than Raleigh. Greensboro itself is bigger than Raleigh, Winston-Salem is bigger than Durham and the area istself is nearly 300,000 people larger.

Second, GSO never had a direct flight to London. In fact, the only passenger flight Greensboro has had nonstop was to Toronto with Air Canada.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32177 posts, RR: 72
Reply 21, posted (11 years 5 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 778 times:

Is Raleigh the smallest US city with a scheduled daily trans-Atlantic flight? Surely. (Other candidates may include Charlotte and Phoenix?)

Phoenix is bigger than Tampa, Charlotte, Minneapolis, Cleveland, Cincinatti, Portland, Denver, Pittsburgh, and Memphis, just to name a few other trans-Atlantic gateways.

Though yes, Raleigh-Durham is the smallest trans-Atlantic gateway, down there with Memphis.



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