UAL747-600 From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 538 posts, RR: 0 Posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1302 times:
This must be the month and it's driving me crazy waiting for the LOI's/orders to be formalized. From various places on the internet I have the following list:
1) JAL
2) ANA
3) KAL
4) ASIANA
5) EVA
6) CX (At least 777-300)
7) SIA
8) Malaysian
9) QF
10) AA
11) UA
12) CO
13) DL
14) AF
15) AZ
16) KL
17) Emirates
18) BA
It would seem to me that a minimum of 100 orders/options ought to be pretty easy and that a significant amount of future biz is virtually assured considering the airlines involved.
If you're an Airbus fan, I'd get your doctor to start prescribing massive quantities of Prozac!!!! You'll feel better when all the orders are announces SOON!
Anybody care to start guessing the launch customers and quantities involved.
KLM 777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1019 times:
In case you haven't noticed, 2/3 of Boeing's workforce is still on strike...
Not exactly the best time to get the ball rolling on the 777X---still can't make present deliveries under the current conditions, let alone future ones.
But don't worry....that day is coming.
AF + Japanese boys are the only definites at this point, IMHO.
KLM might, AZ can't afford it, CX is very questionable.
Sammyk From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1686 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1004 times:
2/3 on strike? Hardly! Not even 1/3 of Boeing employees are on strike. Maybe 1/10, Doesn't Boeing employ somewheres around 200,000 people? And only 17,000-20,000 engineers are on strike?
CX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4385 posts, RR: 5 Reply 5, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 994 times:
Boeing most likely will not announce the orders before March 26 or 28. That is when the ETOPS restricition twins will be changed from 180-240 minutes. I may have the time wrong but Boeing and its customers are waiting till after. For the most part you have the customers that already have or will order the new 777-200LR and 777-300ER. While I like these new Boeings I for one can't wait for the 747-500 and 747-600 in early 2001
"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower
Sammyk From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1686 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 985 times:
The ETOPS 207 (not 240) will be effective on March 21st. Comments will be heard until the 20th. Can't wait!
The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6082 posts, RR: 56 Reply 9, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 955 times:
It's very frustrating not knowing like you said and guessing is difficult but fun!!! I say ANA, JAL, Air France, Singapore, Delta, American, United, Emirates, EVA Air, Malaysia, Singapore and Qantas as launch customers. I think Cathay Pacific and Continental will order these planes later. I can't wait until 20March when 207 ETOPS should be announced and hopefully orders for these new 777s at the same time. The777Man
Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....GA, T5, CI and LX 777s
Avion From Bouvet Island, joined May 1999, 2205 posts, RR: 8 Reply 10, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 938 times:
I think you can rule out some airlines of the 777LR orders. Only these airlines have a real interest.
1) JAL
2) ANA
3) KAL
4) ASIANA
5) EVA
6) SIA
7) Malaysian
8) QF
9) AA
10) UA
11) CO
12) DL
But there isn't a big need for the 772LR. There are only few routes where this routes aircraft would be used on. So no airline will order very large numbers of ac. And SIA also makes business from Europe-Asia flights. With the arrival of the A 340-500 and the 777LR the stop in SIN becomes unnecessary. And Asiana and KAL have few routes to use these aircraft on.
TMP From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 943 times:
"purely, you're a loser.
at least Boeing can make better planes than Airbus. Boeing rulz
4ever!!!!!!!!"
Purely, this conversation is ridiculous. For example: How do you know so much about planes that you can say Boeing makes better ones? And Boeing rulz what?
I say: both make good planes. Which one is better, I can't say. No one can. Which one rules? Depends where.
Wingman From Trinidad and Tobago, joined May 1999, 1836 posts, RR: 5 Reply 13, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 928 times:
It is amazing how many forum members and the press in general think Boeing is going out of business after losing the order battle in '99. Look to the log book instead where the count is just about even. This is the best indication of future performance there is. Reuters, Time, and the aviation mags in general slam Boeing left and right while touting Airbus as God's gift to aviation.
Airbus used many factors to its great advantage in gaining its long-held goal of 50% marketshare. Yet, this doesn't prevent the EU from going after Boeing's off-shore tax breaks or Lionel Jospin claiming that the EU will do everything in its power to help Airbus "win its battle against Beoing". I don't understand what more the EU could do to help Airbus aside from nuking Everett, WA into oblivion. Think about this-the EU claims (correctly) that Boeing saved some $150 million in 1999 through off-shore sales tax breaks. The EU says this is unfair. Yet Airbus itself hasn't paid taxes since Day 1. I wonder what "savings" this has borne Airbus? And all three partners, who just this week declared excellent and growing margins from Airbus, still demand gov't aid for the A3XX. I don't blame the EU or Airbus for this anymore, I just blame the pansy ass losers in Washington for letting them get away with it.
FITPilot From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 104 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 896 times:
Does anyone know if TG is interested in the 777X. It would seem like they could use it to fly to some distant destinations from Bangkok, like LA nonstop. Are they waiting for the Thai economy to get better or are they interested in the A340-500/600.
The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6082 posts, RR: 56 Reply 16, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 874 times:
Yes, Thai Airways is interested in the 777X, they had a Letter of Intent a few years ago. They want to fly LAX-BKK nonstop just like FITPILOT said. The777Man
Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....GA, T5, CI and LX 777s
FITPilot From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 104 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 857 times:
The777Man,
Do you know if THAI has placed an order or when they will place an order and how many they might be interested in. I'm just a little curious because i fly on THAI's LAX-BKK flight every year. It would be much more convenient without the stop in Japan.
Anyone know if THAI would be interested in using the 777X to fly to other destinations in the US?
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