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Yet Another A380 Thread  
User currently offlineMdsmith11 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 194 posts, RR: 1
Posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1918 times:

Has Airbus actually started constructing an Airbus A-380 yet? I know at one time there was talk of having issues of the runway at the factory extended, and even having to buil a new factory all together.

Can anyone confirm or deny? Thanx in advance to all replies.

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User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1898 times:

Sure they have started building the A380, Airbus even ordered a ship from China to transport parts around Europe to get assembled in France. When the
Russian President Putin recently visited France during the Airbus deal they where shown
a training version of the A380 cockpit at the factory.


User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 2, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1769 times:

They've begun making parts... major assembly of the plane will begin next March or April (2004) if I'm not mistaken.

They've begun building factories for the actual planes in both Hamburg and Toulouse.

Its all very exciting... I can't wait to see the first of these monsters take off...

N


User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8048 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1763 times:

If I remember correctly, BAE Systems has already begun construction of the first wing set for the A380-800.

I can't wait for the first prototype to be rolled out in the late fall of 2004.


User currently offlineSinlock From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1652 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1734 times:

"I know at one time there was talk of having issues of the runway at the factory extended, and even having to build a new factory all together."

The issue was that in order to extend the runway, Airbus was going to have to fill in a lake on the border of the factory. The Eco-Nazis were making a big stink about this. They shut-up after Airbus pointed out it was a man made lake.



My Country can beat up your Country....
User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6346 posts, RR: 33
Reply 5, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1735 times:

Sorry Ray, you'll have to wait.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


Damn, this website is getting worse daily.
User currently offlinePW100 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2002, 2596 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1607 times:

Flight International reports that first flight has now been moved from late 2004 into early 2005. However Airbus insists that the program remains on schedule and that first delivery to SQ is still on target for March 2006.
Final assembly of the first A380 is due to start in early 2004. First metal cut for the wing/fuselage center section was in the first half of this year.

Interestingly the same article reports that Airbus is now looking into airframe and engine modifications to optimise the A380 for the Japanese domestic market. To date, Airbus has always said that they were not really interested in getting more than 555 pax certified [due to 90s exit requirements]. Apparently they feel that they can do the 90s with more than 555 pax, otherwise it would not make any sense to pursue the Japanese domestic market.
Airbus is looking for 40 min turn-around-time [!!] on these domestic monsters. 40 minutes for 600-700 pax...WoW. Airbus sees a total demand for almost 100 airframes in the Japanese market [domestic/long haul].

Rolls-Royce is also firm on track with the Trent 900. Several vital test [including fan containment test] have already been completed. The first pre-production Trent 900 test-run is anticipated for 17 Mar 2003 and certification is scheduled for Oct 2004, well in advance of the now slipped first flight.

Airbus just published its latest [2002] Global Market Forecast. It sees a market for 1138 airframes in the 500+ pax market over the next twenty years. The previous forecast [2000] showed 1235 airframes.

Boeing, reversely, sees only 330 airframes in the 500+ market over the next twenty years. However with the A380 now firm on track, Boeing is still/again looking for future 744 developments, and has approached potential customers with a 747-800 [!?] proposal. Which is basically a beefed up 744XQLR with additional fuel [1000 USgal, 3790 liter] in tail sections. To counter balance the additional fuel, a four-frame [6,5 ft - 2m] stretch forward of the wing is anticipated. This would create an additional 20-40 seats [both main deck and upper deck will be stretched]. If the extra payload is not used, range will increase to 8000nm [14800 km].

It seems a little strange to me that Boeing will spend a lot of bucks on developing the -800 while they don't see a significant market for 500+ seat aircraft. However I do feel that a medium stretch is the way to go on the 744. The current aircraft is too close for comfort to the 773[ER] and 346[ER?], which do the same task, with a little less payload, but with better economics. A stretched 744 would certainly increase economics [per seat mile] and have a better payload advantage compared to the 773/346.

PW100



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User currently offlineMUC-PIX From Germany, joined Aug 2002, 178 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1570 times:

Hey Sinlock:

Good statement, the eco-nazis  Big grin  Big grin  Big grin

A typical german economical problem - not to have a problem means you have to make some out of nothing... there are many people from the "reality-side" of the pololation that think the same way.

BTW: The area now being filled was a part of the Hamburg harbour area, called "Mühlenberger Loch", a small bay, not a lake, and some guys meant very exotic birds have their home there... No problem with environment protection, but there is a proverb in Germany, saying "stay on the carpet" what means something like "stay realistic". It´s a little hard to believe that a species only can survive in one of the most industrial areas in Germany - don´t you think?


User currently offlineBruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5067 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (12 years 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1438 times:

Hey....Mark......remember me? I tried to email you from the address in your profile but its not valid. If you got a new email drop me a note to my address in my profile.


bruce



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