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Bill Harms' List Lives On..  
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1963 times:

In case you thought Bill's 11/12/2002 update was the last one, you'll be pleased to know he's going to do one more in December. He's doing so to aid in the transition.

What transition?

Bill's list is being taken over by Chris Kilroy, and can now be found at: http://www.jetphotos.net/census/

The data is now searchable, and can also now be manipulated in new ways. After Bill's last update, the Harms site will at some point go away, and Chris' site will be the only place for the data.

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User currently offlineLindy field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3129 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (12 years 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1916 times:
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I'm glad that Harms' list will live on, but too bad it's not going to live on at this site. It will definitely give the jetphotos site a little more respectability.

User currently offlineGmonney From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2159 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (12 years 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1901 times:

I agree with you Lindy Feild, i wish the site would stay the same, but its good to see it is going to be running.

Hey, if you need any help, the GTAE will be glad to assist anyone with CYYZ (Toronto, Canada) Info http://www.torontoaviation.com


Drive it like you stole it!
User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1877 times:

Thats very good news.

User currently offlineSerge From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1989 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (12 years 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1870 times:

Awesome news, especially for jp.net! Tested it out and it even includes a photo of the plane when you search for a specific reg  Big thumbs up.


User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6626 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (12 years 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1863 times:

Excellent!! Glad to see the most comprehensive and best place to search for info about a plane is alive and well.....now I can look forward to finding where in the world Pacific Airlines MD80 S7-ASK came from!!

User currently offlineBlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1920 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (12 years 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1832 times:

that is killer

great news for us reg heads


They're not handing trophies out today
User currently offlineGerardo From Spain, joined May 2000, 3481 posts, RR: 31
Reply 7, posted (12 years 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1804 times:

YUP! That's indeed very good news. Where else can I get the exact aircraft info for my next uploads...


dominguez(dash)online(dot)ch ... Pushing the limits of my equipment
User currently offlineBruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5065 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (12 years 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1787 times:

Excellent. i posted on the yahoogroup that Bill subscribes to, basically saying thank you to him for his hard work. His list provided a great service to us.


Bruce Leibowitz - Jackson, MS (KJAN) - Canon 50D/100-400L IS lens
User currently offlineApuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3032 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (12 years 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1776 times:

Excellent news!


Ivan Coninx - Brussels Aviation Photography
User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (12 years 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1756 times:

Excellent news indeed! I certainly hope Bill's family is very understanding to let him do one more update to close out 2002. And I want to wish Chris Kilroy all the best in taking over Bill's lists. He'll have some big shoes to fill. Best regards to Bill & Chris.  Wink/being sarcastic

"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." --Ben Franklin
User currently offlineEg777er From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 1837 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (12 years 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1640 times:

What would be really cool is if Johan and this guy do some sort of joint venture whereby when you search the Airliners.net photo db, it comes up with this information.

For example, searching on A4O-KA on this site delivers a host of photos.....but on the site with the valuable information there are no photos. They should be linked!!

User currently offlineSerge From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1989 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (12 years 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1613 times:

Eg777er: Yeah, I tried only one reg myself (N922UA) and it did come up with a photo  Smile, but I'm sure many aircraft photos for the regs are missing. Jp.net is growing everyday and will only continue to grow so hopefully its not a problem soon.

I don't think the joint venture idea would work because... well.... just search for "competition" in the site related forum and you'll see.  Innocent


User currently offlineNational_757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1595 times:

I'm glad the list is not dead because from time to time, I will use it. This is a great new feature. Healthy competition promotes new and better ideas in my honest opinion.

User currently offlineAF002 From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 74 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (12 years 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1546 times:

By the way, http://ac.1e.ca/ is still up and alive, I just need to grab the latest update from Bill. And there's a link to airliners.net pictures  Smile I don't understand why Chris felt the need to copy a.net that bad.. Why not trying to create something new? Innovate, not duplicate..

User currently offlineUPS Pilot From United States of America, joined May 1999, 871 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (12 years 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1533 times:

Chris Kilroy has had a very successful site at http://www.airdisaster.com
He and his site have been mentioned in the National Media such as CNN and "The Howard Stern Show" . He has created something new, "innovated" and hasn't "duplicated".

Bill Harms has contributed to aviation greatly and will be missed!!! I feel Chris Kilroy has the talent and drive to continue where Bill Harms left off. Please don't bash his efforts  Smile

User currently offlineAviasian From Singapore, joined Jan 2001, 1489 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (12 years 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1503 times:

Whatever URL the Bill Harm's List resides in, many of us will continue to visit it for valuable reference and resource.

I am sure I speak for many when I say that we are very grateful for the time, effort and money that Bill has put into providing all of us with up-to-date reference material . . . many of us have also neglected to say "thank you" as often as we would like whenever we use the site. So here's a big and sincere Thank-you Bill!

And to Chris, thank you also for keeping on with the hard work that Bill has started . . . I am sure many of us will contribute to the site, if we know how and what you need.

KC Sim

User currently offlineAF002 From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 74 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (12 years 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1381 times:

UPS Pilot,
I agree that both Bill and Chris have merits for putting a lot of work into their sites. What bothers me though on jetphotos.net frontpage:
"Unlike other large online photo databases, we have not set standards which cannot be met by anyone other than the professional photographer".
Which is an obvious cheap shot at airliners.net, even if the point is probably right, screeners are sometimes rejecting perfectly good pics.

User currently offlineAviatsiya From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (12 years 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1304 times:

CX Flyboy

Actually, the most comprehensive place to find info on a plane is not that list. Try searching for info on the EMB-120, or Gulfstream IV, or Tu-154, or Yak-42, or HS Trident. You won't find it. You will however find it all on http://www.airlinerlist.com  Smile


Another cheap shot at airliners.net is that Chris seems to have stolen Johan's code and changed it enough to suit his own needs. That is apprehensible.

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