United777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1657 posts, RR: 0 Posted (12 years 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 6253 times:
Does any airline plan to start retiring there older 747-400's? If so or when they do start retiring them what aircraft will they replace them with? Do you think British Airways will eventually order the 747-400ER and Singapore Airlines order the 777-300ER to replace some it's 747-400 aircraft. I think the largest airlines for the 747-400 are British Airways, Singapore Airlines, Cathay Pacific Airways, Japan AirLines (JAL) and United Airlines.
Do you think it's time for the very first customers of the 747-400 to retire them and go for the new A340's and 777 long range aircraft?
Na From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10817 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (12 years 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 6231 times:
SIA already starts (as usual) to put 744s on sale. 9V-SMD will be leased to Air Nigeria obviously.
In general I think its pretty early (and the wrong point in time) to replace the 744, the oldest are 13 years old. LH and JAL certainly won´t, BA might be forced economically, UA certainly. SIA, and less so CX are known of having a young fleet, so they´ll start first.
On the other hand Emirates for example already announced that they´ll start replacing 777s (with newer 777s)
Btw you forgot Lufthansa, they almost have twice as many 744s as CX does.
AFa340-300E From France, joined May 1999, 2084 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (12 years 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 5945 times:
The 747-400 second-hand market is currently suffering from the competition of the A340 and 777 derivatives, in addition the lack of immediate requirement for an airplane of the size of the 747-400. This has prevented some airlines from retiring some of their -400s in the way they would have liked (eg. United Airlines or British Airways).
But, yes, some airlines are/have been clearly looking for a 747-400 replacement.
Asgeirs From Iceland, joined May 2001, 516 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (12 years 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5837 times:
The oldest 747-400 is only 12 years old!!!!!!!!!!
come on....they gotta get more out of a plane than that. Some airlines may be selling them as their needs change but i doubt anybody would retire one to the desert to be chopped up.
I suspect United777 is wondering about when airlines will start selling off their oldest 747-400's and replace them with new ones of the same type (or some other type maybe). I seriously doubt that we will see a 747-400 chopped up in the next 10 years, unless it is a damaged one. Most Jumbos are used for 25 years at least.
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