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User currently offlineMarrrty From Canada, joined Nov 2001, 42 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1168 times:

Does anyone know the exact location where Air Canada flight # 621 crashed in 1970?

I know it was in a field, but what was the location - and what is there now?

Just out of curiosity....

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User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1147 times:

Marrrty, I'm not sure, but I came across an article recently, and I forget the publication, that some guy recently found some stuff from the accident at the exact location of the site of the crash, including bones, and something else. If I come across the article, I'll let you know. Maybe somebody else saw it?


"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineMcdougald From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1124 times:

The crash site was a farm belonging at that time to the Bergsma family. YYZ717 wrote once that it's still an open field, but that suburbia is encroaching on it.


User currently offlineSkywatcher From Canada, joined Sep 2002, 453 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1095 times:

I remember the incident. It was on a bright, warm Sunday afternoon and involved an Air Canada DC-8-61 flying from YUL to YYZ.

A friend of my Dad's at the time worked for AC and was on the verge of a breakdown after sifting through the debris at the crash site.

I believe that it was the last fatal AC crash.

RIP.


User currently offlineMcdougald From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1084 times:

There was an article published on Canoe in November 2001. It says the site is now overgrown and that there's not much sign left of what happened there.

http://www.skicanadamag.com/TravelNewsNYCrash/011114_forget-sun.html


User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1067 times:

McDougald, Air Canada unfortunately did have another fatal accident after that with a DC-9 in Toronto, which overran the runway (at the time, 24L/6R). It ended up in the ditch where Britannia Rd. now goes through. I'm not sure on the date of the Cincinnati DC-9 accident, but was around that time too I believe. (Too lazy too look these up).


"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineDripstick From Canada, joined Dec 2001, 2364 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1058 times:

I am here to be of service. Here it is...

http://www.airdisaster.com/cgi_bin/view_details.cgi?date=06261978&airline=Air+Canada

Dripstick



What's another word for thesaurus?
User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1043 times:

Excellent Dripstick ... make sure you all scroll all the way down to the bottom for all information pertaining to the accident.  Big grin

However, it says in the report it happened on 24R, but I'm under the understanding it was at 24L (now called 24R, incidentally).



"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineDripstick From Canada, joined Dec 2001, 2364 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1041 times:

"...make sure you all scroll all the way down to the bottom for all information pertaining to the accident.

LOL.


urr...yeah, I meant to provide that plug.

Where's my commission?

Dripstick



What's another word for thesaurus?
User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 56
Reply 9, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1037 times:

Speak to Fat Bill, he'll let you know!  Smile


"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineDripstick From Canada, joined Dec 2001, 2364 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1037 times:


You sure it wasn't runway 15L as pictured here?...



Dripstick



What's another word for thesaurus?
User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 56
Reply 11, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1028 times:

Oh that's it, we're in trouble now!!!!!!

(by the way, they're considering advertising with airliners.net, so not all is bad here).  Big grin



"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineMarrrty From Canada, joined Nov 2001, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 976 times:

Thanks to all for your replies!

Cheers,

Marrrty


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16228 posts, RR: 57
Reply 13, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 942 times:

There is also a memorial of the crash in the Mt Pleasant Cemetery in downtown Toronto. It lists basic info about the flight along with the names of all crew & pax.

I run by it all the time.






Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 56
Reply 14, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 939 times:

WELCOME BACK NEIL! We've all missed your presence here! And you missed some good threads, where your comments would have been very helpfull.  Big grin


"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16228 posts, RR: 57
Reply 15, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 932 times:

Thanks Nuno!

I went to Nassau for a week. Last minute decision. I needed some sun and other things.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineDelta-flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2676 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 931 times:

I remember this crash very well. I hope I do not bore you with the following story, but here it goes anyway......

I was a college student at the time, living with my parents in Montreal, but was working in BC that summer. On the Thursday evening prior to the crash, a friend of my parents, Steve Simon, was at their house having a farewell dinner, as he was emigrating to the USA - leaving Sunday morning at 7 am, bound for Los Angeles, on Air Canada.

On that fateful Sunday morning, may parents awoke to the news that a DC-8 had crashed in Toronto, and a quick check revealed that it was indeed the 7 am flight from Montreal to LAX, with a scheduled stop at YYZ. My dad called Air Canada to see if Steve was actually on the plane, but they would not say until the next of kin is notified. They took my parents' phone number and promised to call back later.

They did indeed call back a few hours later, asking if my parents knew his next of kin. They gave them his brother's phone number in LA. Apparently, AC tried to call him, but as he had not heard of the accident, he was already on his way to the airport to pick Steve up. At LAX, the arrivals board did not have the flight listed, so his brother inquired at the counter -- they asked who he was looking for, and is he the next of kin, then they told him the bad news. Shortly after, AC called my parents in Montreal with the same news.

By the way, this was not the last AC fatal accident. A fire in a DC-9 comes to mind in the early 80's.

Pete


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16228 posts, RR: 57
Reply 17, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 922 times:

The DC-9 fire was in August 83, on a flight from DFW-YYZ (that PRESTIGIOUS AC route). The DC-9 landed quickly in CVG but 23 of 46 people on board died.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
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