Artsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4748 posts, RR: 32
Reply 6, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 2521 times:
I checked sonic again for the flights that left on the 27th, 28th and 29th. The 28th isn't there, but sonic would normally have a note saying cancelled. This leads me to believe that this was a scheduled cancelation for Thanksgiving. I know that many of the international pairings have been 4 trips instead of three days because of thanksgiving. Basically there is nothing in the system to suggest that this flight had mechanicals, or delays, therefore it must be just a scheduled cancelation due to the holiday
Mr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 2402 times:
I agree... I'm always interested to know why a flight is delayed or cancelled. Granted flights are cancelled everyday but we love aviation and planes... people are just interested to know what happened and why only... no big deal eh
Klwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 2257 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 2006 times:
I think some ought to be a little more polite and less critical here.
Let's examine some things:
It is a holiday weekend and planned cancellations are normal.
Due to the unusual nature of this flight: the length, CO's infrequent service to HKG, the unique service this flight provides to New York, and the distinctive flight path; this flight draws more than just a passing interest for an aviation enthusiast. For CO, these things might contribute to a feeling of pride and prestige. I would logically conclude that this flight would almost never cancel due to the above reasons. There is nothing strange about that.
I disagree with the statement that flights cancel all the time and that's typical. Just because mainline cancellations happen does not make them common under normal operational days (meanining no blizzards or other unusual circumstances). For example, on a normal day Continental boasts that they usually complete around 98-99% of their mainline flights. 100% completion days are not rare or unheard of. I have been out to my local airport, Denver, 4 times the last few weeks. Each time I carefully look at UA's departure and arrival screens. Among all their hundreds of flights, not once did I see a mainline flight cancel (commuter flights? that's a different story). Therefore I conclude UA is about the same. Two years ago I took a flight on UA. It's a long story, but the flight was 7 hours late and not cancelled. I have had nothing unusual happen since then on any trips. The point is that airlines try to avoid cancelling flights at all costs, especially international long hauls. So those of you who claim cancellations are "common," please use some operational statistics to define what you mean by "common."
747firstclass From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 1994 times:
One time, a few years ago, I had a reservation on CO from Newark to MAD.
I happen to notice that a number of times, in he few weeks before I left that my flight was canceled. I started to worry, wondering if something was going on that I was not aware of. It turns out that the flight to MAD and return operated fine.I was asking around, to no avail why it was being canceled. Reality is you dont know the full reason why Hkgspotter1 asked the original question, nor is it any of our business. He is however, entitled to a decent response if someone wants to amd is able to provide the answer. Let common decency prevail. It could just be that he wants to take pictures, thats his business, not ours.
: Anyone think of checking the CO website and see if it is scheduled to operate. Most US airlines reduce their schedule on the Major holidays (ie Thanks
: Hkgspotter1, I have a friend that works in CO in Hong Kong. I dropped him an E-mail and apparently he told me that the bookings on that flight seemed
: What are the average loads for this flight? Or is it because of the Thanksgiving weekend that it's low?
: Mr. BA, I think it's only for this flight that is an exception. Most CO HKG - EWR v.v flights have pretty average loads and especially in Business Cla
: I thought it had gone back to daily already! So this flight has average loads, back when CO flew 747's and DC10's to Australia and NZ the flights were