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CO 099 Newark - Hong Kong Cancelled (29th)  
User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2353 times:

29-11-2002

17:15 CO 099 Newark/NewYork Continental **Cancelled**

Does anyone know why this flight was cancelled ??

29 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineSeiple From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2333 times:

Who cares? Hundreds of flights are cancelled worldwide each day.

User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 2, posted (12 years 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2311 times:

According to Sonic, this flight is not cancelled. It is only the 28th here in the US, so I am not sure about your stats for the 29th.

Jeremy


User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2272 times:

Seiple,

If you have NOTHING to say DON'T SAY IT.

Artsyman,

According to the Hong Kong airport site today's arrival is CANCELLED. ETA would have been in about 6 hours.


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2265 times:

Hkgspotter1, you're entitled to your opinions, but why the interest in a flight cancelling, unless you know someone that was supposed to be on there?

I find that curious.


User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2248 times:

Alpha,

I don't understand, why do I have to know someone on the flight to ask why its cancelled. I'm asking because its very rare for it to be cancelled.

Whats going on with this forum ?

If we all took your views then none of the topics would be posted because at least one person would think its not needed.

Daryl


User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 6, posted (12 years 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2249 times:

I checked sonic again for the flights that left on the 27th, 28th and 29th. The 28th isn't there, but sonic would normally have a note saying cancelled. This leads me to believe that this was a scheduled cancelation for Thanksgiving. I know that many of the international pairings have been 4 trips instead of three days because of thanksgiving. Basically there is nothing in the system to suggest that this flight had mechanicals, or delays, therefore it must be just a scheduled cancelation due to the holiday

Jeremy


User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2237 times:

Jeremy,

Thank you for that.

Daryl


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2220 times:

Alpha,

I don't understand, why do I have to know someone on the flight to ask why its cancelled. I'm asking because its very rare for it to be cancelled.


I find it curious, that's all. There are flights cancelling all the time. I just don't understand why the need to know ,that is all.


User currently offlineCathay Pacific From Australia, joined May 2000, 1864 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (12 years 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2202 times:

well, Hkgspotter1 is in HK and he is interested in aviation, if there's a flight flying into HKG happened to be cancelled, he has every right to be curious.

I think I would ask the same question if CX100 is to be cancelled! Please respect other people's interest and not make such silly remarks if you don't find it interesting.



cathay pacific, now you're really flying
User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2193 times:

OK,

I think we should stop there before we all think that the other is on the attack.

Thanks again.

Daryl


User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (12 years 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2184 times:

Cathay Pacific,

Just added you to my respected userlist !

Rgds
Daryl


User currently offlineCathay Pacific From Australia, joined May 2000, 1864 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (12 years 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2169 times:

Daryl:
Thanks for your kindness!  Smile



cathay pacific, now you're really flying
User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2161 times:

You two gonna exchange rings soon?  Wink/being sarcastic

Just kidding, guys.

I meant no harm with my comments. I just find it curious, that's all.


User currently offlineCathay Pacific From Australia, joined May 2000, 1864 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (12 years 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2141 times:

Alpha_1,

I'm so offended now!!! Pissed






just kidding Big grin

Anyway, I hope my previous post didn't offend anyone and if I did, I'm sorry.



cathay pacific, now you're really flying
User currently offlineMr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 22
Reply 15, posted (12 years 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2130 times:

I agree... I'm always interested to know why a flight is delayed or cancelled. Granted flights are cancelled everyday but we love aviation and planes... people are just interested to know what happened and why only... no big deal eh  Smile


Boeing747 万岁!
User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (12 years 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2010 times:

No Problems, what a happy bunch we are  Nuts

User currently offlineDutchDeltaDude From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (12 years 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1961 times:

The following flights are cancelled at AMS this afternoon. Shall I start different topics for every one of them? Some people may find that interesting!

CO046
CO047
KL2105
KL2106
AT 850
AT 851
AZ120
AZ121


User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (12 years 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1878 times:

Should we laugh ........ Sleepy

User currently onlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 6054 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (12 years 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1873 times:

DDD,

I think that in this case it's interesting to know why CO99 was cancelled. It is, after all, one of the world's longest flights.


User currently offlineTraveler From Canada, joined Jul 2001, 241 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (12 years 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1769 times:

Seiple,

What a rude man you are. As previously said, if you have nothing to say...just don't say anything.

traveler


User currently offlineSquigee From Canada, joined May 2001, 652 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (12 years 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1753 times:

29-11-2002

1:09 PM AA829 from Chicago **Early at 12:59 PM**

OMG! This flight is 10 minutes early? Does anyone know why? If I don't find out it would be awful!



Someday, we'll look back at this, laugh nervously, and then change the subject.
User currently offlineLindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (12 years 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1738 times:

One simple question - 21 replays - including 18 replays bashing author of the thread for posting such a stupid question.

If you dont like what he posted then dont read it. Maybe there are some other people that are curious about this cancelation.

Gee Waley


User currently offlineKlwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 2098 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (12 years 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1734 times:

I think some ought to be a little more polite and less critical here.

Let's examine some things:

It is a holiday weekend and planned cancellations are normal.

Due to the unusual nature of this flight: the length, CO's infrequent service to HKG, the unique service this flight provides to New York, and the distinctive flight path; this flight draws more than just a passing interest for an aviation enthusiast. For CO, these things might contribute to a feeling of pride and prestige. I would logically conclude that this flight would almost never cancel due to the above reasons. There is nothing strange about that.

I disagree with the statement that flights cancel all the time and that's typical. Just because mainline cancellations happen does not make them common under normal operational days (meanining no blizzards or other unusual circumstances). For example, on a normal day Continental boasts that they usually complete around 98-99% of their mainline flights. 100% completion days are not rare or unheard of. I have been out to my local airport, Denver, 4 times the last few weeks. Each time I carefully look at UA's departure and arrival screens. Among all their hundreds of flights, not once did I see a mainline flight cancel (commuter flights? that's a different story). Therefore I conclude UA is about the same. Two years ago I took a flight on UA. It's a long story, but the flight was 7 hours late and not cancelled. I have had nothing unusual happen since then on any trips. The point is that airlines try to avoid cancelling flights at all costs, especially international long hauls. So those of you who claim cancellations are "common," please use some operational statistics to define what you mean by "common."


User currently offline747firstclass From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (12 years 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1722 times:

One time, a few years ago, I had a reservation on CO from Newark to MAD.
I happen to notice that a number of times, in he few weeks before I left that my flight was canceled. I started to worry, wondering if something was going on that I was not aware of. It turns out that the flight to MAD and return operated fine.I was asking around, to no avail why it was being canceled. Reality is you dont know the full reason why Hkgspotter1 asked the original question, nor is it any of our business. He is however, entitled to a decent response if someone wants to amd is able to provide the answer. Let common decency prevail. It could just be that he wants to take pictures, thats his business, not ours.


25 FutureFO : Anyone think of checking the CO website and see if it is scheduled to operate. Most US airlines reduce their schedule on the Major holidays (ie Thanks
26 9V-SPK : Hkgspotter1, I have a friend that works in CO in Hong Kong. I dropped him an E-mail and apparently he told me that the bookings on that flight seemed
27 Mr.BA : What are the average loads for this flight? Or is it because of the Thanksgiving weekend that it's low?
28 9V-SPK : Mr. BA, I think it's only for this flight that is an exception. Most CO HKG - EWR v.v flights have pretty average loads and especially in Business Cla
29 ZK-NBT : I thought it had gone back to daily already! So this flight has average loads, back when CO flew 747's and DC10's to Australia and NZ the flights were
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