Yyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16435 posts, RR: 55
Reply 2, posted (12 years 5 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1973 times:
If memory serves, they only received 2 MD-80's and found them too large for their network. Combined with financial troubles, they got rid of them and standardized on the older (and less capital/lease intensive) DC-9-50's.
Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
FlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (12 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1962 times:
Actually Hawaiian had 6 MD-81s. First delivered in 1981, and all were gone in less than 5 years. The DC-9-50s were more suitable for Hawaiian's inter-island operations, as Yyz717 has stated. Glad to see Hawaiian now has 13 717s. IMO, they could a few more. Regards.
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L1011 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1701 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1887 times:
On my first trip to Hawaii in 1987, I saw some MD-80s, but I flew on a Hawaiian DC-9-14, N930EA. It was not ex-Eastern, even with that tail number. I remember that it still had open overhead racks. All the rest of my Hawaiian inter-island flights were on DC-9-51s, and one of them was ex-Eastern, N420EA. This December I get to fly on two of their 717s. I'm looking forward to it, but I'll miss their DC-9s.
BR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1871 times:
DeltaSFO, They have progressed alot. In the 1980s they Sold their MD80s (Newer) and kept the DC9-50s (Older). Now they got MD-95s (Newer) and they got rid of the DC9-50s (Older) This time they didn't get it A$$ Backwards
HAL From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2588 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1874 times:
Easy and simple answer;
The MD-80's were way too big and heavy for the flying we do. Every time you take off you're lifting the weight of the airplane along with you. If you're flying 2-3 hour legs, no problem. But we fly maybe 10 -12 legs a day at 20 minutes per leg. All that takeoff and climb put a big plane like the MD-80 at a big disadvantage in performance and fuel usage.
Practically speaking, a large turboprop like a new Dash-8-400 would be perfect for interisland. However the people of Hawaii have voted with their feet and insist on jet service between the islands. So the best compromise for us now is the smaller, lightweight 717.
One smooth landing is skill. Two in a row is luck. Three in a row and someone is lying.
HA_DC9 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 659 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1715 times:
"Perhaps they are a candidate for an RJ at some point in the future. Is there anyone that does inter-island with an RJ?"
HA would most likely not go for an RJ as they are committed to using their brand new 717's for the long run. The 717's are a perfect match for HA and interisland flying as it was specifically designed for that type of flying (High density, short range flights).
Right now no airline flies interisland with RJ's. Aloha was considering the RJX but that aircraft was cancelled or something like that. Aloha has since decided to continue to use their 737-200's but eventually will have to replace them. Even when Aloha decides on a new airplane they probably won't go for an RJ because they need an aircraft with QC capabilities for their night interisland cargo operations. I don't see them going for an RJ unless someone makes an RJ with QC in the future.