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New Fleet Types To ROC.  
User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7387 posts, RR: 8
Posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1955 times:

Hello! This weekend while spotting in ROC,I noticed two new planes that I've never seen in ROC before.
First was on Thursday,I saw the new Jetstream Int'l Dornier 328 (not the 328JET). I saw that this was a service from PIT fir USAir Express. Never seen this fleet-type in ROC before.
Second was a NW Jet Airlink CRJ from DTW. This was operated by Express Airlines. These replace the Saab 340's that MESABA operated. MESABA Still operates Avros here too.Along with mainline Diesel 9's.
I know it's not much,but it's nice to see something new here.
BTW for all you 727 fans,March 31 is the ****LAST*** day ROC will have scheduled 727 pax flights. Delta will replace the 727 with CRJ700's (!) (a new fleet type here) and MD88's to ATL. I heard that COMAIR will upgrade to CRJ700's on some of their flights to CVG. Nobody else flies MD88's to ROC now.


'Empathy was yesterday...Today, you're wasting my Mother-F'ing time' - Heat.
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User currently offlineDCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4467 posts, RR: 34
Reply 1, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1906 times:

The Airlink CRJ's replaced the Saabs on Nov. 26, so NW is all-jet at ROC now.

When I landed at ROC last Tuesday at about 11:40 pm, I noticed 4 mainline US Airways jets parked for the night--3 A319's, and 1 A320, plus 4 DH8's. US only flies mainline planes from ROC to PIT, PHL, and CLT these days. So I figured that one of these must have been the second daily flight to one of those destinations. Doesn't sound like good fleet utilization to me, though it is good to still be able to see 4 US mainline a/c at ROC at once. Also overnighting: 1 B6 A320; 1 DL 722; 1 DL CRJ; 1 AA F100 (enjoy them while I can  Sad ); 2 UA 733's; 1 NW DC-9-30 (to be two when the MSP flight starts); 1 COX ERJ-135; 1 COX ERJ-145; 2 CO Connection B1900's.

Also noticed that there was only one AirTran a/c overnighting (the one I arrived on from BWI). Usually there are two, aren't there? We still have early AM flights to both BWI and ATL. Saw the same when I drove past the airport around midnight the next day.

Was at BUF last night and saw the Miami Dolphins' charter at the NFTA gate right by Genesee Street, an AA 767-300. Fortunately, the Bills remembered how to play football and squished the fish into the snow today.  Smile

Jim


User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4483 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1896 times:

United_Fan just a couple notes. Jetstream Int'l no longer exists, it is PSA Airlines, Inc -- the old name was replaced so US could retain the rights to the PSA name. Also Express Airlines I has renamed themselves Pinnacle Airlines as of 6 or so months ago.


Any opinion/comment posted is that of my own and not that of Southwest Airlines Co.
User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7387 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1850 times:

Well,I checked www.fltyecomm.com , and it said it was 'Jetstream Int'l ' . I didn't catch the call sign as I was just driving up.


'Empathy was yesterday...Today, you're wasting my Mother-F'ing time' - Heat.
User currently offlineZrb2 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 895 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1815 times:

Jim, Thanks for the tidbit about the Dolphins charter at BUF. I saw it at the airport last Thanksgiving parked in the same spot. I wonder why last month , New England parked & loaded their Delta 767 at the air freight terminal? It was nice to see the Dolphins get the deep freeze yesterday.

Speaking of BUF (even though this thread is about ROC, i can't resist), I noticed this excerpt from the business news

"Air Transat will continue to test the U.S. market with nonstop flights from Buffalo to Cancun, Mexico, and Punta Cana in the Dominican Republic later this month and in the new year. Operations begin at the Buffalo Niagara International Airport on Dec. 21. A total of 17 flights from Buffalo to Cancun are scheduled through April. Nine flights to Punta Cana, starting Feb. 20, are scheduled through April."

I wonder what type of aircraft they will be using?


User currently offlineFlight152 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 3369 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1799 times:

DCA-ROCguy

Do you have any idea what types are gonig to be flown into BUF for the upcomming football games? I missed the AA 767 and wondering if there was anything good to see in the future.

Thanks.


User currently offlineBUFJets From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1797 times:

Last year, I recall an ex-Buffalo Bill was the F/O on the BUF-MIA Charter for the Dolphins. I think it was a lineman, maybe Jim Richter? I wonder if he did the flight this year.

User currently offlineLHMark From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 48
Reply 7, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1746 times:

Jim, I'm convinced that AA F100 never moves. Ever. It's always there. They might as well expand the Phillips European restaurant right into it.

As a Dornier fan, I gotta get out there more often.



"Sympathy is something that shouldn't be bestowed on the Yankees. Apparently it angers them." - Bob Feller
User currently offlineDCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4467 posts, RR: 34
Reply 8, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1744 times:

"Air Transat will continue to test the U.S. market with nonstop flights from Buffalo to Cancun, Mexico, and Punta Cana in the Dominican Republic later this month and in the new year. Operations begin at the Buffalo Niagara International Airport on Dec. 21. A total of 17 flights from Buffalo to Cancun are scheduled through April. Nine flights to Punta Cana, starting Feb. 20, are scheduled through April." I wonder what type of aircraft they will be using?

Probably 752's or A310's. A search of the database for Air Transat showed photos of 752's, A310's, A330-200's, and L1011's and L1011-500's currently operating. (anyone know of other types?) Figure at a medium-size market that the smaller of these a/c are most likely, esp. since Air Transat won't be drawing any people from the YYZ market where they operate.

But who knows--I'd love to be wrong and see an Upstate NY airport getting widebody pax aircraft of any kind! Any progress on crosswind runway expansion at BUF, Dan? From Genesee Street, I couldn't tell if the runway was longer.

Unfortunately, Flight152, I don't know about the other incoming NFL charters at BUF this year. A story in the Rochester paper a month ago indicated the Bills using Northwest 752's this year. Owner Ralph Wilson is from Detroit, which may have something to do with that. Wonder why one NFL team finds a 752 big enough, whereas others use bigger a/c?

Jim


User currently offlineZrb2 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 895 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1728 times:

Jim, not sure of how far along they are on runway 14/32? I'll check it out again over X-mas when I fly in again. Last time there (Nov.3), I definitely saw construction equipment and dump trucks over in that area so they must be making some progress. There was an exceptional crosswind that day and I observed runway 14 in use for all CRJ / ERJ and lighter aircraft while I was there.
[For those that don't know what I'm talking about, they are extending rwy 14/32 at BUF by 1,700 feet].


User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7387 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1720 times:

The Browns used a NW 752 to fly home from practices w/the Bills in Aug. Very nice to see 757's in ROC. They loaded it up over by Airborne's terminal.


'Empathy was yesterday...Today, you're wasting my Mother-F'ing time' - Heat.
User currently offlineLHMark From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 48
Reply 11, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1714 times:

Jeez. I remember touring the new A concourse at its grand opening, long before the airport was completed, and noticing 757 parking marks panted on the tarmac. I dared to hope.

Now, there are Dash 8 parking marks.

-Mark



"Sympathy is something that shouldn't be bestowed on the Yankees. Apparently it angers them." - Bob Feller
User currently offlineBUFJets From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1702 times:

Last year, or was it two years ago, Air Transat used at least some L-1011's out of BUF. I saw one go over once.

User currently offlineDCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4467 posts, RR: 34
Reply 13, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1654 times:

Mark, I thought of you when I flew out of ROC today....not only was the AA F100 there, there were *two* of them. I got a picture with them and a NW CRJ, we'll see how it comes out. Apparently one was an earlier flight to Chicago that had been delayed, and the other was the regular early afternoon flight. They arrived within a few minutes of each other.

No Phillips European though, these Fokkers were both working!

I remember the 757 parking marks too. Maybe if JetBlue ever gets A321's...well, at least US did schedule some A321's last summer on weekends, and I saw one on a Tuesday night in June.

Jim


User currently offlineN2111J From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 148 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1630 times:

At present, the 4 US Air overnighters include 2 from PHL, and 1 each from PIT and CLT. The A321 is back until Jan 5th, arriving as USA18 from LAX and PHL at 11:12pm, and going back out in the morning at 7:40am as USA1515 to CLT and CUN. It's still interesting to note that while ROC has been getting the US Air Airbii for a couple years now, BUF, SYR, and ALB still get only 733's and 734's.

American overnights 2 F100's, but those will change to 2 ERJ's on Feb 1st after the mainline pull out.

Air Tran overnights just one 717 now instead of 2. This change occurred a couple months ago I believe, and the 2nd 717 flight now arrives from ATL at 11:40am and departs a few minutes after noon, instead of the late arrival/morning departure scenario.

Mike


User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7387 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1566 times:

I saw a Express.net A300F come in last night ! I've never seen Express.net in ROC before. I saw that US A321 Sunday ! I had to do a double take to make sure it was a A321. I also see that Captitol Cargo is back. Hopefully we'll see some more 'exotic' types as Christmas nears.


'Empathy was yesterday...Today, you're wasting my Mother-F'ing time' - Heat.
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