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User currently offlineKj76 From Finland, joined Aug 2001, 188 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 years 8 months 2 days ago) and read 2742 times:

Just read Amir's trip-report and I left myself wondering how many airlines allowe smoking?
What about cockpit?
In Amir's report he said that all 3 crewmembers were heavy smokers...?!?!
As a " marlboro-man " I am very curious to know.
Anyone have more details?

kj76
    
 Smokin cool  Smokin cool  Smokin cool


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User currently offlineRick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (11 years 8 months 2 days ago) and read 2724 times:

In common with all British airlines I know of, there is no smoking anywhere on the aircraft and that includes the flightdeck.

An Air 2000 Captain was recently disciplined for this if I recall.



I used to love the smell of Jet-A in the morning...
User currently offlineGoing64 From Netherlands, joined Oct 2002, 329 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (11 years 8 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2705 times:

afaik Air Holland has designated the last rows for smoking (at least it was in October this year).

User currently offlineJoni From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 8 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2676 times:


Airlines could perhaps install a small plexiglass room somewhere in the plane, where smokers can go for a puff.



User currently offlineJtamu97 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 658 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (11 years 8 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2656 times:

I know Air France used to allow smoking fom the US only after reaching international waters and only at designated times in an area by the restroom seperated from the main cabin by a curtain with very stong exhaust fans. HOWEVER, from Paris smoking was allowed within the aircraft after takeoff until before landing. I do not know if this is still the case

Later,
Jay



Propeller, we don't need no stinkin propeller
User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 8 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2651 times:

I saw these Air France "smoking bars" on a flight from CDG to SFO two years ago but unfortunately they were closed. The last flight where I was allowed to smoke was a LTU charter flight from Greece to Germany back in 1993.

Patrick


User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 6, posted (11 years 8 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2633 times:

Even Arab airlines, such as KU, SV etc stopped allowing smoking aboard.

When I flew DAC-RUH with Saudi Arabian Airlines, the Gate Agents collected cigarette boxes from all the Bangladeshi people that they are not going to smoke aboard the aircraft. Even Biman Bangladesh is non smoking.

One of the only carriers where smoking is still allowed on some routes could be Aeroflot.

No secret, that with most airlines, the cockpit crew smokes (if they are smoker) ...



Smooth as silk - Royal Orchid Service /// Suid-Afrikaanse Lugdiens - Springbok
User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8060 posts, RR: 54
Reply 7, posted (11 years 8 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2620 times:

I'm trying to give up at the mo, not doing a very good job unfortunately. That said, the patches work really well and I'm surprised how little smoking even occurs to me when I'm wearing one. (Trouble is I'm also trying to give up weed and I take the patch off before dinner and after my meal I smoke a fat one. Eventually I'll break both habits but I'm starting with the 20 Marlboro Lights I would ordinarily smoke in the daytime.)

Since most air rage incidents are smoking-related (or more concisely, NON SMOKING related), airlines should hand them out cos they really make a big difference. Plus most smokers want to stop and many may not have tried patches, and trying it on a plane and finding how effective they are would be great advertising for the patch people. Chances are if the airline made the right approach to the patch people they could get the patches for free, or even get some £££s as well.



fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
User currently offlineIl75 From Argentina, joined May 2001, 263 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 years 8 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2613 times:

Call it my imagination... But during a recent transatlantic Iberia flight I could smell smoking. Just a little bit, but enough. I got the impression it came through the ventilation system.
I said to myself "someone is smoking in here".
When I later commented this in Madrid, my friends laughed and said: "The pilots!" "The crew!".

I don't know what to believe.

best regards
Erico


User currently offlineSrilankan_340 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2002, 201 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (11 years 8 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2617 times:

From what I remember Srilankan airlines has a non smoking policy EXCEPT on flights to Japan!!
I think BA had a similar policy too in the past?....

I remember my Dad complaining about that fact when he flew to NRT, although this was last year, I am not sure if the policy has been changed now.

I personally would like to see smoking banned on all flights !




People are often unreasonable, illogical and self- centered: Forgive them anyway - Mother Theresa
User currently offlineTrickijedi From United States of America, joined May 2001, 3266 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (11 years 8 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2495 times:

I beleive Philippine Airlines atill allows smoking on certain flights. Not to and from the US however.


Its better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air than be in the air wishing you were on the ground. Fly safe!
User currently offlineShortfinals From Malaysia, joined Jul 2000, 153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (11 years 8 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2465 times:

Trickijedi,

I can understand that since Lucio Tan owns both PAL and Fortune Tobacco Company.


User currently offlineAeromexico757 From Mexico, joined Aug 2000, 292 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (11 years 8 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2461 times:

Watching this picture I assume that in Iberia it is allowed to smoke in the cockpit.
Can you find the cigarettes.


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Photo © Marlo Plate



Aeromexico757


User currently offlineTrickijedi From United States of America, joined May 2001, 3266 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (11 years 8 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2415 times:

Shortfinals,

Yes, that's right! I completely forgot that he also owns a tobacco company. I didn't think of it in those terms - I just remember reading that there were still some select smoking flights on PAL's website.

It it weren't for FAA regs I'm sure Tan would still allow smoking on all flights.  Smile



Its better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air than be in the air wishing you were on the ground. Fly safe!
User currently offlineMxCtrlr From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2485 posts, RR: 35
Reply 14, posted (11 years 8 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2392 times:

I could be wrong but I was under the impression that smoking on the flight deck was exempted from the DOT ban due to "crew attention issues". Afterall, if the US Surgeon General has gone on record stating that nicotine addiction is stronger than heroin addiction - I sure as hell wouldn't want some cold-turkey heroin addict going through withdrawal symptoms on a low-minimums approach - so why would I want a cold-turkey nicotine addict going through withdrawal symptoms on that same approach. Just my $0.02 worth!

MxCtrlr  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Freight Dogs Anonymous - O.O.T.S.K.  Smokin cool



DAMN! This SUCKS! I just had to go to the next higher age bracket in my profile! :-(
User currently offlineKHI747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1615 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (11 years 8 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2380 times:

I think it is really unfair and unecesarry how airlines....now from the world over...have enforced this blanket non-smoking policy.On my last smoking flight onboard an Emirates B772 from DXB to KHI....i noticed how the good ventilation on the plane immediately sucked in all the smoke from our rows....our last 3 rows or so were smoking in the Business class section and i remember walking around that section while others smoked and there really wasnt any smell or smoke because of the effecient ventilation system...dam it feels good to light up in the sky after a good meal with the seat all the way back !!!!!!! Ofcourse EK is no longer a smoking airline and in the last year or so Kuwait Airways,PIA,Gulf Air and Saudi Arabian have all become non-smoking now( atleast i have the memory to have smoked in all those airlines!)  Smokin cool  Smokin cool  Smokin cool  Smokin cool  Smokin cool

User currently offlineKj76 From Finland, joined Aug 2001, 188 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (11 years 8 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2363 times:

I am amazed that pilots smoke in the cockpit...well...if it was my profession I'd propably light it up too!
I thought Aeroflot banned smoking earlier this year?!
I was about a month ago in St. Petersburg and there locals smoked everywhere!
It was weird at first but as a marlboroman didn't take long to adjust...

BTW Finnair banned smoking about 5 years ago.

cheers,

kj76

 Smokin cool


User currently offlineBBADXB From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (11 years 8 months 22 hours ago) and read 2294 times:


In my opinion, Iberia holds tight to its non-smoking policy. On a B752 flight from FCO to MAD, the other week, someone lit up in the lav, and the CSD delivered a special announcement reminding the pax that smoking on board (inc. the lavs.) was not allowed and warning that should someone be caught smoking again, a police report would be lodged upon landing. It is therefore rather concerning that IB pilots light up so easily then.

Regards  Wink/being sarcastic
BBADXB


User currently offlineAreopagus From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1369 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (11 years 8 months 20 hours ago) and read 2267 times:

our last 3 rows or so were smoking in the Business class section and i remember walking around that section while others smoked and there really wasnt any smell or smoke because of the effecient ventilation system

This was obviously written by a smoker whose sense of smell is shot.


User currently offlineSudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (11 years 8 months 20 hours ago) and read 2261 times:

"Airlines could perhaps install a small plexiglass room somewhere in the plane, where smokers can go for a puff. "

Yes,
outside the A/C attached to a rope.





When in doubt, flat out!
User currently offlineBeechStarship From United States of America, joined Oct 2002, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (11 years 8 months 14 hours ago) and read 2220 times:

>>our last 3 rows or so were smoking in the Business class section and i >>remember walking around that section while others smoked and there really >>wasnt any smell or smoke because of the effecient ventilation system

>This was obviously written by a smoker whose sense of smell is shot.

Amen! Even if the ventilation system sucks up the smoke, where do you think that air goes? Right back up front to us!!! Smoking airplanes reak! I can get into anyone's car or apartment and tell immediately if they smoke.

I believe in an individuals right to smoke in their own home (if they cover the the increased cost of their medical care, which they don't), but enclosed public areas are NOT the place for it. Planes are worst of all. Gallons and gallons of fuel and hot embers are a recipe for disaster.



User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 21, posted (11 years 8 months 13 hours ago) and read 2195 times:

HOWEVER, from Paris smoking was allowed within the aircraft after takeoff until before landing. I do not know if this is still the case

Nope, not anymore. Was on AF a summer ago in Business and the flight attendant came by and offered nicotine gum to all the passengers in business class...most of them being french.



America's chickens are coming home to rooooost!
User currently offlineBeechStarship From United States of America, joined Oct 2002, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (11 years 8 months 11 hours ago) and read 2178 times:

In the 70s wasn't there an in-flight fire with a lot of fatalities that was caused by a burning cigarette tossed in a lavatory trash can? Another reason to ban smoking. I think it was in a DC8 or 707 or similar size aircraft. And I believe it was Air France! When will they learn...

User currently offlineKHI747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1615 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (11 years 8 months 7 hours ago) and read 2143 times:

Ohh come on guys ....smoking isnt that bad after all if it is confined only to a certain limited place in the plane......

User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 24, posted (11 years 8 months 7 hours ago) and read 2135 times:

I used to smoke, but have been quit for 6 years. When I think back to being able to smoke on the plane, it seems so odd. By the time we got to where we were going, the ashtray beside me was full, butts everywhere... seems a million years ago

Jeremy


25 Post contains images Kj76 : Take it easy! Didn't want to start a riot here... Is it stupid to smoke? Is it expensive and dangerous? Yes! But this thread was about is there any ai
26 Turbolet : This might be my personal agenda speaking but I simply don't understand what all the fuss about smoking is. Here in Malta, even though the amount of n
27 Post contains images Kj76 : Well we all know that no airline will not allowe smoking in the future. I still wonder about Aeroflot;do they still have smoking flights? Domestic or
28 Android : My friend is a C/A for Korean and she tells me the crews sometimes have a puff in the back of the cabin or the galley with the curtains closed.
29 Gigneil : Its not air pollution that people object to... its serious health risk. I also find smoke disgusting, and I have some severe reactions to it. My one e
30 Post contains images Airsicknessbag : For the record: I have been on numerous smoking flights (I´d guess half of my total flights), the last time March this year. Oh, and I´m a non smoke
31 Post contains images Il75 : I still smoke occasionally and I certainly smoked on flight at those times it was allowed (specially after a good meal during long flights across the
32 Swissgabe : Srilankan_340 It's already some time ago since all SriLankan flights are non-smoking without any exception (Japan).
33 Post contains links and images Kj76 : Just came across this picture and it shows that in Germany or at least on AirBerlin it is still allowed to smoke onboard. View Large View MediumPhoto
34 Funny : OLYMPIC AIRWAYS OF GREECE IS THE MOST SMOKEY AIRLINE I HAVE EVER BEEN ON. Smoking was banned from Olympic only a few months ago, however there is alwa
35 Post contains images Jumbolino : Hello guys, I've an idea (I don't miss smoking on flights shorter than 3 hours and I understand why it's banned on smaller aircraft, say regional jets
36 Post contains images Kj76 : Nice idea! Fleet would be nice in "SmokingAir". It would have only B773's and they would be coloured depending on the sponsor. B773 would look nice in
37 Post contains images Jumbolino : Yeah, Marlboro colors are ok, I used to smoke Marlboro 100 a time ago, but changed to "Gauloises blones avac filtre" because during working hours Marl
38 Post contains images Jumbolino : Yeah, Marlboro colors are ok, I used to smoke Marlboro 100 a time ago, but changed to "Gauloises blones avac filtre" because during working hours Marl
39 Post contains images Turbolet : 773? Eeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww... Can't you guys at least choose a decent plane? Oh and if you want to fly to Malta, you'd have to use a Ro
40 Post contains images BBADXB : Last year, Condor still allowed smoking on board. Towards the end of September of this year, I flew Condor again, to Malta from MUC, and I did not ch
41 Drgreen757 : If there's three completely useless things in this world, it's Lawyers, Critics(am I criticizing), and smokers rights. I would like to designate the a
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