Bruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5099 posts, RR: 13 Posted (16 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1873 times:
There was an original movie on TBS (on cable) called "Nowhere to Land". Did anyone see it?
Basically, it is a 747 flying to LAX and the jilted lover of a woman on board has put a bomb in the cabin...the bomb contained nerve gas, set to detonate of course after they passed the halfway point between HNL and LAX so they could not turn back, and the pilot had to dis-arm the bomb with help by radio from the ground. I thought it was a good movie...suspenseful. And after he shut down the bomb's timer, and you thought you could rest easy because they were safe, well, they were still in trouble as the back-up detonator would be triggered by atmosphere altitude change. They had moved all the pax from the rear cabin to the front, seating some people on the floor.
What would happen if you really did that - move all the people to the front of the plane - wouldn't that throw off the balance or something?
I don't know if they will show this movie again.....
Bruce Leibowitz - Jackson, MS (KJAN) - Canon 50D/100-400L IS lens
SFO From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (16 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1663 times:
I too enjoyed the movie ... not that I need a good story line. I just need to watch any movie that is set in an airliner. I agree it was quite entertaining ... and Christine Elise didn't look too bad at all in a First Officer uniform.
I'm not big at technical details but I thought I found the usual inconsistencies. First I thought that for a 747-200 the flight deck looked a bit too modern -- looked like it was full of digital readouts. Also doesn't a 742 need a 3rd flight crew member? There were only 2 people in the flight deck in the movie. Also I thought that at one point in the movie, just before take off the sillhouette of the aircraft looked like it had a stretched upper deck while the rest of the movei showed a normal 742. Also during take off, they showed a close up of the captain or was it the FO pushing the throttles. I thought the scene only showed 3 sticks.
Enjoyed it anyway. I'm pretty sure they'll show it again.
WiL SW737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (16 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1646 times:
I saw the movie last night too. I thought exactly what SFO thought. The 747 was a model -200 but it had a new generation flight deck. Yup, they were suppose to have three crew members but instead they only had two which made it seem unrealalistic. But if you count George, it's three. It was sad that George died. The runway landing looked pretty real though. They sure fooled me. Jeff Wagner and Christine Elise were good too.
Bruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5099 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (16 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1595 times:
yes...christine Elise..puuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..... ya know what i mean
They probably used a real plane for the outside shots but the flight deck scenes are done in a studio...so it doesn't necessarily look like the real thing.
Bomb scanners at airports can screen out the usual bombs, but that type was simply 3 little vials of deadly gas and a little tiny blast cap like a small gun to make the vials break....do you think that type of thing can slip by security??
Bruce Leibowitz - Jackson, MS (KJAN) - Canon 50D/100-400L IS lens
NWA Man From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1828 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (16 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1588 times:
Pretty good movie, especially the Christine Elise part! I don't know how realistic it was, because they seemed to be able to fit the entire coach cabin on the floor in Biz, but it was pretty entertaining nonetheless.
This is what I love about this board. If everyone here had a Nielsen book, that flick would be number one. It's like "Plane movie! Screw the News!"
Baec777 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1231 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (16 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1589 times:
As Sunday night, I did see that movie, and it was almost the make of Executive Decision, so anyway it was well same as the movie that used the Oceanic Airways 747 .. Baiscally, I was concerned about the pax, they would have been seated in business / first class as an emergency procedures. Another thing is, The men who chased the woman's lover, are they the FBI, or the airlines' securities ...?? That what I wondered, they tried saving the man, but the man has died from falling on the water park system. I heard that the man who placed the bomb has made a false chest pain complaint onboard before take off for LAX just to have excuse to place the bomb....
VirginA340 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (16 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1568 times:
Bruce In desperate situations the pilots does what he can to save his passengers. I know I would take a chance if I were to be in his shoes. Being a pilot is not only getting passengers from point a to b it's also to protect them from the time they board to the time they deplane. To Baec; The men were FBI agents. Airport security is not resposible for the fans in Olypic park or in the staduim. In one part the FBI is being debriefed about the situation outside the arena.
Fxra From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 736 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (16 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1567 times:
I unfortunitely didn't get to see the movie,... but in the past, i tend to just critique the bad parts or the movies like this.. I mean, was it Executive Decision (same Oceanic airliner right.. bad record for Oceanic... :-) where they are crawling around between lowers pallets and LD-3's... yeah, right!! So the captain has this bomb that will explode if it drops below a certain altitude... So, don't depressurize... hows the bomb gonna know what altitude its at otherwise unless its hooked to a radar alitmeter... Solves the ladning problem.
Next, even at the halfway point between LAX and HNL, the plane should have enough fuel to turn back to mainland.. or where ever. they carry extra fuel on these things.
OK, so, anyways, you can't descend below 2300, drop to nine or so, depressurize, open a door and throw it out. Dangerous.. sure, but look at the choices. I didn't see the movie,(appearently missing good footage of CHristina), why couldn't it be moved???
And for the gentleman who asked if moving ALL the pax to the front would cause a weight and balance prob... probably.. but there are lots of different vairables in ther.. but the pilots could just trim it up enough to at least fly level.
OK, see why i don't watch these movies now?? That willing suspension of disbelief doesn't work for me. Just my $.02, I ould be wrong.