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Question: Moldavian International  
User currently offlineAmir From Syria, joined Dec 1999, 1254 posts, RR: 12
Posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1600 times:

Hi Folks,

Moldavian International (RM) used to fly with the Yak-42 to FRA. Today, by chance i found a different equipment (Source Amadeus) 141? with a indicated seat arrangement of 10 C and 64 Y seats? any info about an equipment change on this route (FRA-KIV)?

Thanks for input
Rgds
Amir


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User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1559 times:

BAe 146-100?

LY744.



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User currently offlineAmir From Syria, joined Dec 1999, 1254 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1566 times:

Hi, well from the abbreviation, it could make sense? it would be a pity if they switch to western equipment..... Albanian, Armenian among others already did so on/to FRA

Rgds
Amir


User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3154 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1557 times:
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Yesterday I still saw the good old YAK42 here at FRA.
Now you got me hooked on the Russians, Amir...

Konstantin



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User currently offlineConnector4you From Canada, joined May 2001, 932 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1531 times:

Well it's a long and ugly story but to make it short Moldova used to have two airlines Air Moldova International (private) and Air Moldova (Government own).

On Nov 22, 2002 the Moldovan Civil Aeronautic Authority informed Air Moldova International that it would not renew its Air Operator License (dated back in 1995) due to failure of the airline to comply with international standards.
Air Moldova International used to operate exclusively the Chisinew-Frankfurt route.

Shortly after, Air Moldova (Government own) was designated the only air operator of this route which by the way seems to be the most profitable route for Moldova.

Since Air Moldova International had yet to honor its advanced bookings on this route, they made some arrangements choosing Cirrus Airlines of Germany (Team Lufhansa) to fly in and out of Moldova on their behalf for the next three months. In order to operate the Frankfurt - Kisinew route Cirrus Airline was set to obtain the necessary route license in 14 days time from German Aeronautic Authority.

meanwhile pending required licensing Cirrus started to fly the route on behalf of Air Moldova International but the aircraft was denied any service (including refueling) upon landing at Kisinew Airport. More over on December 01, 2002 the Kisinew ATC bluntly refused to grant the landing permission for Cirrus's aircraft. The aircraft had to turn back and land at Iasi Airport (Romania) while the passengers on board the aircraft were ferried for several hours by bus back to Kisinew.

Moldovan Government said that Air Moldova International upon loosing their Air Operator License should have negotiated an arrangement with Air Moldova and not with Cirrus Airlines !

Many believe that this is a politically orchestrated move meant to transfer this profitable route on Government hands.

Cirrus is currently operating an ERJ-145, 50 seats on the route and it appears that Lufthansa is now set to start service between Frankfurt and Kisinew in the summer.

So it's really hard to take a guess as of who and what aircraft will fly this route. At least for now !



User currently offlineAmir From Syria, joined Dec 1999, 1254 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1510 times:

Connector4you:
many thanks for this indepth posting! Well doesn't sound good at all but this is the sad practice in so many countries at the verge if privatisation.

where did you get the information from that LH might start operating there?
Their star partner VO is already serving the route from VIE, but i think the demand is much bigger and justifies a direct flight (otherwise the government wouldn't have been so keen....)

Brgds
Amir


User currently offlineAmir From Syria, joined Dec 1999, 1254 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1508 times:

Hi,

does anyone know who the private Air Moldova Int'l belong to? a consortium? Banks?

Thanks& Brgds
Amir


User currently offlineAviatsiya From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1504 times:

Connector4you...thanks for posting the information in regards to the Moldovan authorities. I have a friend who used to work, until recently, at Air Moldova International and Chisinau Airport Services (ground handling).

Back in late October my buddy was advised that as of the end of the month he would no longer be in work with either AMI or CAS. The government would be closing CAS down and would "nationalise" all ground handling at Chisinau Airport. He was also told that AMI would also be shut down, and all route authorities would be handed over to the government owned Air Moldova.

Just for people's information, Moldova still has a communist government in power, and this goes along with their plans to nationalise, and basically screw up, the airline industry in Moldova.

No-one wants to fly Air Moldova. The top 3 airlines of choice in the country (as per what people want to be able to fly) are 1) MDV Moldavian Airlines 2) AMI 3) Air Moldova.

The employees are totally pissed with this action, because it is well known that AMI is a better (and more profitable) airline than Air Moldova. There was talk of strike action but nothing has happened yet, and I doubt whether it would make any difference.

But I know that other people with AMI still have their jobs, as I received an email from an @ami.md email just yesterday.


User currently offlineAmir From Syria, joined Dec 1999, 1254 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1490 times:

Hi Scotty,

i just talked to a Friend who used to have dealings with Air Mold. Internatinal. I can only confirm all what you mentioned, it's a pitty!
Even if the government carrier flies the route KIV-FRA, they ned good interline agreements out and from FRA otherwise they will only pick up local ethnic traffic which means ultra low yields (there is quite a good traffic of moldovians to the US) thus less moneay for the country.. it's always the same.....
Actually the reason for me checking their schedule out of FRa was to find a routing where i can fly a YAK-42 (i never did before).

Brgds
Amir


User currently offlineAviatsiya From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1493 times:

Just further, you could shoot off an email to AMI in FRA on fra@ami.md and see what they say. They are quick helpful to our type of emails and questions (from my past dealings with them).

User currently offlineAviatsiya From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1491 times:

Sorry, I didn't realise I posted just after you.

Hmm...a Yak-42 out of FRA....I think this would be your best bet

http://www.kuban-airlines.de/

But do you really want to go to Krasnodar to do it?  Wink/being sarcastic


User currently offlineAmir From Syria, joined Dec 1999, 1254 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1489 times:

Hi Scotty,

Well yes Kuban is always coming with the YAK42, but i tohught to find something were i can continue or return without the need for an expensive visa and accomodation, let's see.

Cheers
Schaher


User currently offlineConnector4you From Canada, joined May 2001, 932 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1460 times:

On November 26, 2002 Air Moldova International layed off around 400 employees from its subsidiaries Petrol-Service, Chisinew Airport Service and Catering Services that were shot down as well by the Moldovan State Administration of Civil Aviation (ASAC).

Air Moldova is been established on June 2000 and registered in Frankfurt as a joint venture between Moldovan Government who controls 51% and Unistar Ventures GmbH a subsidiary of Dresdner Bank with 49%. It appears that in June this year a conflict of interest between the two co-founders broke free when Moldovan Government based on its 51% majority in the company, decided to vote out the Air Moldova's CEO, and replace him with a person of confidence.
Ventures GmbH declared the vote unlawfully saying that accordingly to the joint venture statutes a such important change would need a 2/3 majority.
As a result Ventures GmbH was seriously contemplating to get out of this joint venture provided that the Moldovan government will buy their 49% investment.

On august 2002, Moldovan government established a new 100% State own paper-airline(no aircrafts) called simply "Moldova".

On September 2002 The Moldovan Supreme Court declares the Air Moldova joint venture dissolved.
As we speak Ventures GmbH's lawyers are set to sue Moldovan Government in International Courts.

On the other hand Air Moldova International will most likely take ASAC to International Courts as well.

The Saga continues !

Is it said that Lufthansa could be starting a Frankfurt - Kisinew route in the Spring (bottom of the article) http://www.mdinto.biz/news.php?nid=73




User currently offlineAmir From Syria, joined Dec 1999, 1254 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1445 times:

Thanks dude for this info! sad developments...

Brgds
Amir


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