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British Asia Airways/Air France Asie  
User currently offlineAA7771stClass From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 296 posts, RR: 5
Posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2038 times:

Can anyone tell me what the rules were around these 2 carriers creation...something about TPE and mainland China right?

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User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5198 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2022 times:

Right. Japan Asia also serves the same purpose, allowing the companies to serve Taiwan without ruffling the feathers of the government in Beijing. Don't ask me why there isn't a Northwest Asia or United Asia airlines.


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User currently offlineBoeingnut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2016 times:

You hit the nail on the head. But I dont think that they have any a/c painted up in those liveries anymore (even though it was just a title change on the a/c. not a truly different livery).

There was also a Swissair Asia (with a character on the tail instead of the swiss cross)

Ther was never a United Asia or Northwest Asia because the US government would stand behind them if China denied rights to them.


User currently offlineAA7771stClass From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 296 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2012 times:

So they do still exist today then...I thought Beijing had calmed down and it was allowed to be regular ol' BA and AF??

User currently offlineAA7771stClass From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 296 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2011 times:

Haha, same time posting. Thanks Boeingnut and OzarkD9S.

User currently offlineBigo747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1930 times:

These 2, along with KLM Asia, Swissair Asia, Lufthansa/Condor was setup due to political problems.

In order to fly to Taiwan, these carriers have to establish a new "company/franchise" and no flags painted on the plane.

Currently, China is still trying to intervene some air service agreement for Taiwan, but this is rare.

Except KLM Asia, all European carriers' "Asia" franchise has been dropped due to poor revenue.

JAA's case is different, right now it has been designated as an airline that specializing Taiwan route. So JAA's new livery will include Japanese flag, which they weren't allowed to do so in the early days.

NW serves Taiwan back in 1947, and UA bought Pan Am's flight to Taiwan in 1985, so there were not much political issues involved.


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