United777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1646 posts, RR: 2 Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1137 times:
The 737 series is a good fit for all of Virgin Blue routes. I wonder if they will order the 737-900 for there proposed new flights to international cities?
Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 15324 posts, RR: 91 Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1128 times:
With the 737-900s substantially shorter range, I don't know how many of those destinations it can reach.
It'll be sad if they select the 737... there won't be anyone left operating the A320 in Australia until Air NZ gets theirs.
Thadocta From Australia, joined Aug 2001, 395 posts, RR: 2 Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1123 times:
With all due respect, this is a no-brainer. The 737 family has all the advantages of the A320 family, and both will fit Vermin Blue's needs admirably.
Where Boeing has the advantage (as far as Vermin Blue is concerned) is that Vermin Blue already operates a large (by S.E. Asia and Pacific standards) fleet of 737NG aircraft, so they already have tech crew and engineering staff qualified in this type, and as a result training for a new type is not an issue.
That Brett Goofy could even make statements that "Airbus has a chance" is ludicrous, when you consider that they held out on moving to T2 at YSSY because of cost issues. Considering this, they WON'T introduce a completely new type with all the costs that that entails.
United777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1646 posts, RR: 2 Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1108 times:
How will Virgin Blue do with Australia's other new airline, Australian Airlines launching new routes to same destinations as Virgin Blue?
Singapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13653 posts, RR: 26 Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 1088 times:
EasyJet did the same thing and then went to Airbus.
Me thinks it's a way to get Airbus to offer a cheaper deal and then go for either Boeing and Airbus at a cheaper price than what they're both offering now.
Rabenschlag From Germany, joined Oct 2000, 938 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 1054 times:
because there is less presence of european products in australia, the european union will probably decide to dump the price of the airbuses so much that virgin blue cant resist.
Manni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 26 Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 914 times:
Let's just hope, Boeing will have this order. Afterall, if airbus keeps booking sucesses like it recently did, airports wouldn't offer such a great variety for planespotters anymore in a few years.
Luisca From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 818 times:
I would hardly call the Easyjet Deal a succes, its like saying that selling a new mercedes S600 for 15000 bucks and including the chofer is a succes. they gave away those planes, they arent going to earn a penney from this order.
Thadocta From Australia, joined Aug 2001, 395 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 734 times:
United777 - Australian Airlines is an international carrier serving routes which Qantas found to be unprofitable. They do not compete head to head with Vermin Blue.
BA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 7754 posts, RR: 57 Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 697 times:
There is something to be said for selling at cost price at the moment.
If Boeing and Airbus have to reduce production numbers due to lack of orders they have to either reduce staff or suffer from higher unit cost prices,ie the planes cost more to make.
If you can sell a large bunch(such as EZY order)then you don't have to reduce the current production levels, so the cost of each unit remains the same.
OK,you won't make as much money(if any in some cases),but at least the production lines are kept running at the optimum levels.
In addition,airlines will need spare parts,thats where you can recoup some of the money.
MELflyer From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 9 posts, RR: 8 Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 630 times:
Could this just be a ploy from Virgin to try and scare Airbus into dropping their price further? Or will Airbus not want to get down to the sort of prices they would have offered EasyJet because of the size of the order?