Atcboy73 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1100 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2228 times:
Listen up Airlineguy
Community College of Beaver County (PA) just out side of PIT is the best kept secret to getting a job as an air traffic controller.
Its how I got mine.
Why is it so great. Its a two year program with the fist year getting your private pilot . You can do this at Beaver county or you can do this at home. I chose to do it at home in Kansas City as well as getting some other courses (math and science) out of the way. Then the second year was spent at the college. The school is located in Chippewa Township (spelling?) half way between PIT and Youngstown, just east of the PA, Ohio border.
As part of the second year at college you get good radar simulation experience and you also get to work a live VFR tower. There are three flight schools at the airport so it stays pretty busy. And its a great community in that the pilots you are talking to are students of the school as well. I don't know if it is now but at the time I went there it was the only college working directly with the FAA that you could get tower time.
And for the most part it is pretty affordable. For $20,000.00 I got my year at Beaver county, including everything it takes to live except my car payment and car insurance.
Let me tell you bud, I love my job! Im in Waco now working tower and approach (and yes, even we can get busy) making $70,000 a year separating planes and guarding presidential airspace at Crawford TX.
The controllers that make up the air traffic control staff in the FAA are an awesome group of people to work with and its an honor to make the skies safe with them every day.
If you have any questions feel free to email me and remember---
Ryanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4770 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2206 times:
I am one, here in the sunny island state of Singapore. You need to have a quick mind that makes split second decisions. Speaking well is the rule of the thumb as well because English is the only spoken language in ATC. Even flying domestically in Japan, pilots converse with ATC in English!
Formulating your thoughts and putting them into words is a challenging task under a stressful situation. Still we have to do it and you should be able to get better at it as time progresses.
Not only speaking in English is important, another challenge comes when you converse with pilots that do not speak English under normal circumstances. Even accented English sometimes throws me off guard (eg. Kiwi and Aussie accents).
There are also numerous restrictions to remember during your slot time in controlling eg. NOTAMs (there can be so many of these in a day!), weather patches to avoid, wake turbulence separation, co-ordination with other controllers. Also understanding the characteristics of the aircraft you are controlling (Fokker 50 vs a 747-400) before sequencing them into a approach funnel.... Phew! I could go on and on!
At the end of the day, when all is well, I give myself a pat on the shoulder for a job well done.
Welcome to my starry one world alliance, a team in the sky!
TrnsWrld From United States of America, joined May 1999, 992 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2129 times:
You guys should see the tower and tracon simulators at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University in Daytona Beach FL (unbelievable). I am now going to be working on my third ATC class working in The Orlando sector sim. I am pretty knowledgable about ATC and am a pilot also. My father was an Air Traffic Controller at Chicago Center until the PATCO strike :-(
OE-LDA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2102 times:
In Austrian airspace you may also use German for radio communication, as far as I know on all frequencies. In practise this means that on smaller airports most people will communicate in German whereas on larger airports and on the radar/information frequencies mostly English is used. But if you call Wien tower (119.4) in German it is legal and they will also respond in German. It is always the pilot who selects the language.
But I agree with BlueShamu330s that for the sake of flight dafety at least on the major frequencies English should be used exclusively.