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Transasia Airways ATR72F Crash; 2 Missing  
User currently offlineBigo747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 1437 times:

A Transasia Airways ATR72-200F went missing at 0207LT near Makung. 53y/o Captain De-Tsung Pan and co-pilot Chin-Hai Liu (34y/o) were operating this Freighter flight from Taipei to Macau.

Taiwan's CAA has set up emergency center at 0305LT. Taiwan navy has sent 20 ships and helicopters to the missing/crashed sites.

ASC has also send a investigation team to Makung at 0700LT.

The ATR72-200 was converted to Frieghter in Feb 2001 for it's expanded cargo service to Macau. The crashed ATR72-200 is 10 y/o.

Taiwan's CAA has also ordered for emergency check for other ATR72.

ASC chief Yung Kay says the last message from the plane located about 50m below sea level.

Transasia Airways' passenger flight continues to operate normally today.

Before the crash, Transasia Airways have 2 ATR72-200F

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User currently offlineBigo747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 1423 times:

First: Corrections:

The ATR72 was converted into Freighter in Feb 2002. All-cargo operation between Taipei and Macau starts Feb 26, 2002. The ATR72F holds 6.5tonnes of cargo, daily flight.

Second: Additions:
The plane's last check was November 28. Roll-out in 1992.

The ATR72-200F is registered B22708. The pilot, transferred from military, flew 14214hrs, the co-pilot is trained by Transasia Airways, flew 4549hrs.

The flight, GE079, carried roughly around 6.4tonnes and departed at 0105LT. Plane went missing from radar around 0149LT, about 14knots Southwest of Makung, altitude around 18000m.

There are now reports saying a JAL plane has received the rescue signal when flying over Taiwan Strait near Tainan, few knots near the missing site.

It is believed at this stage that it was the weather problem, as the ATR was flying through a thunderstorm area.

Taiwan has asked France and Canada for investigation help.


User currently offlineBigo747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 1408 times:

The rescue team has found 8 large pieces of metal around 0805LT southwest of Won-An Island near Makung, Peng-hu.

There are no words whether these large pieces of metals belong to that crashed ATR.


User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6615 posts, RR: 55
Reply 3, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 1405 times:

The Taiwan Straits has not been very lucky has it? This is not good news at all. I used to see this aircraft fly into Macau. Very sad.

User currently offlineAirbus_A340 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2000, 1560 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 1373 times:

This is very sad news indeed.

Trevor



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User currently offlineBigo747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 1360 times:


This is the pic of the crashed ATR72F.

It is confirmed that this ATR carried the victim's body of China Airlines' B747 crash back in May. The plane transported nearly 200 bodies.

Another Correction: Flight number should be GE791

Transasia Airways is the 3rd airline in Taiwan to have freighter. The airline also lost ATR72F in January 30, 1995, near Guei-Shan in Taoyuan County.


User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 1359 times:

What is it with Taiwan ??, I mean CI have crashed so many planes, many of the small carriers have creashed numerous aircraft and now this.

I took a picture of this aircraft on DEC 17th as it flew over Hong Kong.


User currently offlineBigo747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 1356 times:

3rd correction:

The plane's altitude should be 18000feet, not meters.

Due to the poor weather (T-storms), captain requested to lower the altitude from 18K ft to 16K ft.


User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4756 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 1352 times:

What is it with Taiwan ??, I mean CI have crashed so many planes, many of the small carriers have creashed numerous aircraft and now this.

Lets not start insinuating here... creashed??




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User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 1313 times:

Morning Ryanair.

Bigo,

You say they also crashed a ATR72F in 1995 ??. Which reg was this as I don't remember them having another Freighter.


User currently offlineBigo747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 1291 times:

I think the crash in 95 was a Passenger ATR72, not sure why the media reported that the crash was a frieghter.

There are now speculations on the plane may flew into severe turbulent zone, the cargos on the ATR leans towards one side, causing the plane unbalanced, then crashed.

Weather condition may be playing a major role in this crash, due to severe weather occurred in Taiwan this week.

However, Yung Kay says that he believes the plane didn't flew into turbulent zone.


User currently offlineMAC_Veteran From Taiwan, joined Jun 1999, 726 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 1284 times:

It's been a nasty few days here in Southern Taiwan, although we definitely do need the rain. Rumors of a drought here. The dewpoint and humidity have shot up something fierce the past few days. It was quite a 'light show' Thursday morning. Severe thunderstorms put down several inches of hail in the Tainan area. Last night was again quite busy with the storms, a line of them were 'training' from SW to NE right over that area. I'm wondering if this guy ran into wing icing as well. If he was at 18000 feet in that, he was most definitely getting tossed around.

Go check the radar archives at the CWB site here, you'll see the weather in detail.

http://www.cwb.gov.tw


User currently offlineN503JB From Hong Kong, joined May 2000, 303 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (11 years 10 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1241 times:

Last time CI B742 came for Hong Kong.
This time ATR-72 came for Macau.

What's going on with Taiwan?




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User currently offlineAirsnaps From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (11 years 10 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1226 times:

Hi all!

It has been a rather sad situation for Taiwan and it's aviation scene recently.

I flew on a Transasia ATR-42 (passenger variant!) from Taipei to Hualien and was very impressed with their domestic outfit. Depressing news regarding this crash, which closely resembles the one I was on.

I certainly hope they're able to determine the full cause as soon as possible, with poor weather conditions likely to be the most significant contributor to the accident.

Condolences to crew's family members.

Regards,

Paul.
mail@airsnaps.com

Singapore.


User currently offlineStandby87 From Switzerland, joined Jul 2001, 536 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (11 years 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1175 times:

My condolences to the friends and family of the crew who died.

I worked with TransAsia Airways in 94-96 and was based in Taiwan, and flew on B-22708 once down to Taitung. Very sad, and I hope the Taiwanese authorities do as through an investigation as they did on the SQ crash at Chiang Kai Shek.


User currently offlineBigo747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (11 years 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1171 times:

New speculations on the possible wing freezing on the wings.

ATR72's wings is known to get easily frozen in mid-air. The cause for the 1995 ATR crash was also caused by the frozen wings.


User currently offlineQantasAirways From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 1279 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (11 years 10 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1096 times:

Hello all,

Very sad news, indeed I believe.
Yes, Taiwan's safety situation is terrible, especially on domestic flights, however, I have heard that the safety of aircraft in Mainland China is much worse. Thus, on my last visit I had to go from Shanghai-Beijing by train because my aunty wouldn't let us fly.

Regards
QantasAirways



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