Gr8slvrflt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1609 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (12 years 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1608 times:
Bid packets with lines of flying come out every month. Each line has a month's schedule of flights. They are awarded on a seniority basis. Some pick the lines with the most (or least) hours. Lines with the most days off go very senior. Some try to get weekends off. Some go for trips that allow them to commute to work from another city. Some only like to fly a certain type of aircraft. Some look for layovers in a particular city. My line next month has only ten days off which doesn't sound great but I'll have easy trips with long layovers in South Florida. To each their own.
We can also pick up trips for extra time and swap our trips for different ones. Those with little seniority are on reserve for the month. Pilots go through a similar process except they are restricted to only the aircraft and position they are rated for. Hope this helps.
Artsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 3, posted (12 years 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1583 times:
Usually picked with a means to getting to your 80 hrs in as few flights as possible. This is why the longest routes tend to go the most senior. Why fly 5 days a week on short trips when you can fly a long haul transatlantic 4 times per month and have 20 days off, or fly to NRT / HKG and fly three trips and over 20 days off..
Bruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5067 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (12 years 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1547 times:
I was talking to the F/A when I got off in IAH and he said this was the end of a long 12 hour day, having started off in PHL and flying several segments. I thought F/A's have limits of how many hrs they can work, just like pilots???
Isn't a 12 hour day like over the FAA work hours limit? Can F/A's work "overtime" if the need is available?
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MxCtrlr From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2485 posts, RR: 35
Reply 5, posted (12 years 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1523 times:
That may have been the end of a 12-hour time day but not necessarily a 12-hour duty day.
Another possibility is that the F/A had been at the airport and on aircraft for 12 hours but that also does not equate to a 12-hour duty day. The pay rate for F/A's (and pilots) is not from the time they show up at the airport or leave the hotel, it starts when the wheel chocks are removed and the aircraft pushed back (called "blockout time"). They are paid from that moment until the plane blocks back in at its next station. Flight crews do receive per diem for all of the time they are away from their domicile station but that usually equates to less than $2 per hour domestically and a little over that for international flights.
(I think I got my facts straight and presented correctly? Any F/A's out there wish to verify or correct this? Being a "Freight Dog" we don't deal with F/A issues at all! )
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Cody From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1932 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (12 years 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1508 times:
US Airways FA's pick their trips a little differently than most airlines. The process confuses me (I am not a FA but I know many of them). They have different monthly "options." For example they can fly a 50 hour option, 75, 85, and I think 95. You must bid on what option you want. It used to be that the real senior people (ex-PSA FA's from the west coast) chose the 50 hour option so they wouldn't have to work as much. But now it seems like they are working more, since the recent concessions, and the junior people are getting the 50 hour options. So once they know how many hours they work that month, they pick up trips to make it to that many hours. Scheduling must be a nightmare at US Airways.