Big777jet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (11 years 11 hours ago) and read 1149 times:
I just turn TV on and flip channels on news short flash the flight had been rage by passenger from Chicago to Dublin on AerLingus. My TV did not put the closed captioned from NBC TV news I'm disappointed. What's happening? I hope nobody is hurt. I was thinking possible air marshall might be on the board and arrest a guy. I have to wait to find more detail news release later. Has anyone know about this news please post it?
Shamrock104 From Ireland, joined Sep 2000, 519 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (11 years 11 hours ago) and read 1117 times:
Yes, sorry I didn't want to paste a link here to some news sites, but what hapened was a guy (working as firefighter - US national) was very abusive and punched a male f/a 30 mins into the flight, he got handcuffed for the rest of the 6.30h flight) he apparantly kicked, damaging the seats in front for most of the flight and shouted for the flight. Was handed over to police in Dublin and spend 2 days in jail. He was released today, he made a full apology offering to pay costs. He was orded to pay costs and was fined 600euro, 400euro costs to Aer Lingus (i believe). His lawyers argued he hadn't been in trouble before, had a very bad fear of flying, it was his first time flying without his wife and his 'outburst' was due to this fear of flying coupled with alcohol or something to that effect, don't quote me on any of this stuff. Just what I picked up from the local media.
Seat2A From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 81 posts, RR: 2 Reply 4, posted (11 years 10 hours ago) and read 1072 times:
I'm on the side of the flight attendant and all the passengers who had to put up with this moron during the flight. It's tough enough to be crammed inside a narrow metal tube for eight or nine hours without having to put up with this kind of crap. Oh sure, he's contrite now - aren't they all after they're brought to bear for their actions? This guy got off light! The jail time and fine should have been quadrupled being as punishment is a deterrent not only to the offender but also to those who might consider doing the same thing themselves.
As for his lawyers possibly argueing that he hadn't been in trouble before, had a very bad fear of flying, it was his first time flying without his wife and his 'outburst' was due to this fear of flying coupled with alcohol or something to that effect, they forgot to mention that he was probably abused by his parents, too.
Seat2A From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 81 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (11 years 9 hours ago) and read 1054 times:
I probably take a dimmer view than many as I was on a flight where a guy acted up and came that close to having us put down in TUS and put him off. Unfortunately, I was seated right across from him.
Short of self defense, there is no excuse for violence. Ever. The evidence is in on this guy. There's a couple hundred witnesses.
I remember seeing a TV debate with a psychologist after a similar incident happened on an Alaska Airlines flight. The defendant's argument was that it was the medicine coupled with alcohol he'd drunk that set him off. First off, he has a responsibility to check and find out about the effects of alcohol with that medication before drinking and finding out too late. Secondly, the psychologist made the point that people already in their 30s who respond with anti-social behavior or violence while under the influence of alcohol or in response to stressful situations have very likely been in those circumstances before at some point in their lives. By the time you're in your 30s, if this is happening, it's highly unlikely that it's the "first" time. Granted, there are exceptions to every rule but think about it - how many people do you know who are violent? How many friends do you have who've been in a fist fight in the past five years? Oh sure, when I was in junior high or high school, people got into their share of scuffles but by the time you're old enough to be married and be a firefighter, most people have matured and grown out of that kind of behavior. My point is that the vast majority of people aren't violent and/or are able to control their anger. IF indeed this man did take some kind of medication, he should have known better than to drink and IF he couldn't get through the flight without adding drink to medications, he should have stayed home. Either way, he's responsible and has to pay the price for his actions. I say that price was too little.
Again, short of self defense, there's NO excuse for violence.