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Virgin Atlantic Steward To Sue U.S Officials  
User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 381 posts, RR: 1
Posted (11 years 12 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2603 times:

At, http://www.dawn.com/2002/12/24/int9.htm.


.....up there with the best!
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User currently offlineSegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 12 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2573 times:

wow.. talk about being an idiot........

User currently offlineAviatsiya From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 12 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2570 times:

If what is written on the website for this guy is true, then he will be receiving a nice payout from the American taxpayers; and rightly so too.

http://www.michaelphilippe.com/framesetanglais.htm


User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 12 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2569 times:

Scotty, regardless of the truth, the US will never pay a dime to M.Philippe. He made the cardinal error of plea bargaining. No court will ever take the word of a convict in a civil matter.

The US is very liberal with their interpretation of "truth" and uses highly questionable "interrogation" techniques to boot in the case of aliens. M.Philippe's case will never see the light of day.


User currently offlineIkarus From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 3524 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (11 years 12 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2496 times:

well, if the homepage linked to by Aviatsiya is serious and honest, then that's yet another sad statement about the US justice system.

I doubt he'll ever get any money, though. He should, but when was the last time that life was fair?


User currently offlinePrinair From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 744 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (11 years 12 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2469 times:

Despite its flaws, the US justice system is still the most fair and less corrupt of any in the world.

This guy wanted his 15 minutes of fame without getting caught and it backfired on him. He is a disgrace to all of the hard working flight attendants all over the world.




PRINAIR : Puerto Rico International Airlines
User currently offlineSegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 12 months 4 days ago) and read 2427 times:

considering he WROTE those in the lav???

the guy should be fired, let alone thrown in jail!!!

what's wrong w/ you people?????

If I fly Lufthansa and write "Germans must die" in the lav, you bet your sweet ass they're gonna land that plane as fast as they can and find out who did it... if i'm caught, i'll have to pay the price. this guy DID get caught and is trying to weasel his way out of it.

what's wrong with most of you!!!!


User currently offlineFly_emirates From United Arab Emirates, joined Oct 2000, 1046 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (11 years 12 months 4 days ago) and read 2415 times:

well, Writing such stuff in the Lavatory, By a flight attendant for the airline, even if they were not serious is Childish! what would be the difference between him and some highschoolers? Spraying on walls and other places, as calling against the principal or one of the teachers or even a fellow student is common practice in many highschools in the whole world. But on an airline? and such a threatening message? wow, that is too much

However, how did they trace it back to him? it wasn't mentioned in the article


User currently offlineAerLingus From China, joined Mar 2000, 2371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 years 12 months 4 days ago) and read 2410 times:

SegmentKing, you're missing the point!
The man found the scibblings. He denies writing them. Our legal system says "innocent until proven guilty."
Read the article. You are past high school age, therefore I assume you at least passed reading comprehension.



Get your patchouli stink outta my store!
User currently offlineSegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 12 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2400 times:

No, I happen to know a little bit about this incident.

There is a reason the French government did not offer any assistance to this gentleman.


User currently offlineIkarus From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 3524 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (11 years 12 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2385 times:

Segmentking: The question is, what's wrong with YOU, not what's wrong with everyone else...

a) Someone provides a link to a home page, which (admittedly from a highly subjective viewpoint) lists all the factors that suggest an error of justice has occurred

b) some say "IF the website info is correct, THEN there is an issue"

c) you walk in, quoting that "you know a little about the incident" without any backup and shout like a little kid...

Quite honestly, the website does a good job of arguing its points, quoting several things that could easily be looked up and checked, which all suggest that this guy is not guilty. So I tend to trust that website and not some childish a.net member who "knows a little about the incident"....

Regards

Ikarus


User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 11, posted (11 years 12 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2379 times:

Ok, ladies, you're both pretty.

Be nice.

N


User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (11 years 12 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2353 times:

Forget it Neil, the other flame threads are dying down, so I guess its time to start another one for those who don't know how to post without using words like stupid, idiot, ignorant, etc.

Merry Christmas all  Yeah sure

Duane



"The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity"
User currently offlineLH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 54
Reply 13, posted (11 years 12 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2347 times:

I saw this the other day on TV5 États-Unis (a French-language news program in the US). Personally, I don't really have an opinion on the matter, but given the often-harsh methods the government has taken towards foreign nationals since 11 September, it would surprise me if this guy is innocent.

LH423



« On ne voit bien qu'avec le cœur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux » Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
User currently offlineAviatsiya From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (11 years 12 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2238 times:

If I was locked up in a foreign country for 9 months, and had been told I was guilty (without a trial) and would be held indefinitely and kept away from family and friends until such time as the prosecution is able to fabricate a case against me (could drag out into years), then yes, I would plead guilty to a minor charge which would allow me to go home to family and friends. And anyone who says that they wouldn't do the same would be lying.

SegmetKing, if you know a "little" about this case, then please share it with us. Why didn't the French government give this guy its support? I ask this because Le Monde states quite clearly that Chirac consulted Bush on this case, and the French Embassy in Washington (which is the French Government) was also assisting in the case.

http://www.lemonde.fr/recherche_articleweb/1,9687,303310,00.html?query=%22michael+philippe%22&query2=&booleen=et&num_page=1&auteur=&dans=dansarticle&periode=30&ordre=pertinence&debutjour=&debutmois=&debutannee=&finjour=&finmois=&finannee=&G_NBARCHIVES=756+718



User currently offlineSegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (11 years 12 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2210 times:

but it was not at the full blessing of the french government....

anyway, there are other things to argue.. where is that jew/muslim thread?


User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (11 years 12 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2204 times:

What ever happened to "innocent until proven guilty?" The man discovered the writing. The FBI has NO evidence to prove that he wrote the scribblings. They must prove beyond all reasonable doubt, and they haven't even done this.

User currently offlineThadocta From Australia, joined Aug 2001, 397 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (11 years 12 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2190 times:

Aviatsiya - you might want to check out http://www.makeashorterlink.com/ - you would have been able to turn your URL into http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q5E5211E2

Dave


User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (11 years 12 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2156 times:

America truly is the great satan. It's certified.

User currently offlineDc10guy From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 2685 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (11 years 12 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2134 times:

O.k. o.k. I get the point, The US sucks, Boeing sucks, Its all our fault. We did it!!! Having said that, I hope the little gender challenged Stewart gets sent to jail for a long time.... Hijacking is a bad thing here in the US. Too bad we couldn't cut his hand off !!!


Next time try the old "dirty Sanchez" She'll love it !!!
User currently offlineThadocta From Australia, joined Aug 2001, 397 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (11 years 12 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2116 times:

Having travelled recently through the United States, I have to agree that they are indeed going overboard on security issues. It is to be understood that they have cracked down (security prior to 11/09 was an absolute joke) but I really do think that they have gone overboard, and introduced measures which did not have to be introduced.

An example - no metal knives on board, even with the meals served to passengers by the crew. But what is the point, wine is still served out of glass bottles, into glasses (as opposed to plastics), and these bottles can easily be smashed to create a sharp surface which is far more likely to injure than a steak knife ever will.

Likewise with only allowing passengers to go airside at domestic terminals. There is no reason for this, since all persons doing so have to pass through the same security screening. Of course, the stated reason is that they do not wish to overwhelm the screening staff, but if they cannot be trusted to screen whatever is carried through by a few non-travellers, then how are such dimwits expected to be able to screen what goes through on peak occasions such as Christmas Eve, Thanksgiving Eve, etc? (Note, I am NOT calling all screeners "dimwits", but if they cannot be expected to screen everyone going through normally - paxs and non-paxs - then there must be an expectation that they are indeed dimwits).

Airports around the world allow non-paxs past security, and the screeners manage to cope (probably because they are paid decent salaries).

Anyway, I have wandered off topic here. I wish the best to the steward involved - he has indeed become a victim of the current atitude in the United States that "We can do whatever we like and blame it on security, and we will get away with it". I hope he comes out of this victorious.

Dave


User currently offlineScorpio From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 5052 posts, RR: 44
Reply 21, posted (11 years 12 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2087 times:

Isn't it typical how some members on this forum suffer from paranoia so bad it isn't even funny anymore? I mean, let's take a look at the posts of TNNH and dc10guy: both have somehow made out, not only that the guy is guity, but also that this thread was set up for the sole reason of blaming the US for eveything. Way to go, guys! You look very intelligent throwing around that sh*t. TNNH has a long-standing reputation for this, while dc10guy seems to have found a book 'mindless anti-everything but Amercan dribble for dummies'. I'm having a very hard time believing someone aged 36-45 can be so dumb. Based on that, I conclude that you are probably a 13-15 year old smart-ass pretending to be someone else.

User currently offlineDc10guy From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 2685 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (11 years 12 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2064 times:

Wow Scorpio, you seem to be very mad... Are you still steamed about Sabena or something ??? What would be a better comment on this post? How about Good job Virgin Atlantic Stew. You really did good!!!


Next time try the old "dirty Sanchez" She'll love it !!!
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29836 posts, RR: 58
Reply 23, posted (11 years 12 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2034 times:

Sorry but if this guy didn't do it, he really did shoot himself in the foot, by copping a plea.


OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineScorpio From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 5052 posts, RR: 44
Reply 24, posted (11 years 12 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2034 times:

Are you still steamed about Sabena or something ???

Ha..... ha. So very funny. You should start your own show  Yeah sure

What would be a better comment on this post? How about Good job Virgin Atlantic Stew. You really did good!!!

Ah, so you KNOW that this person was guilty, now do you? And you base this on????? Oh yes that's right: he's French, so he must be guilty, right?


25 Post contains links Rey777 : Ok... For those who missed some parts of the story, check this link... And make your own opinion : this guy is innocent ! Well, ok, I'm french, so wha
26 Post contains links Aviatsiya : SegmentKing I am going to push you one more time. You said that the French Government wouldn't even go into bat. You also stated quite categorically t
27 Aussiestu : A message to Thadocta........most airports around the world do NOT allow non passengers past security and to the gate. This is one area that I do bel
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