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User currently offlineVH-OJO From Slovakia, joined Jan 2000, 238 posts, RR: 1
Posted (14 years 1 month 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 874 times:

I have two questions regarding the KLM 747 fleet

1) Back in the late 80s KLM converted several of their 747-206s into the SUD or sretched upper upper deck versions, which is basically the same as the regular 747-300. Are these aircraft included in the total of 81 version -300s produced by Boeing ?

2) Few years ago I have flown a DTW-AMS route on a 747-306 SCD (side cargo door). However the aircraft (PH-BUU) had been configured for an all passenger operation as I sat all the way back where the cargo should be stored on the Combi version. Is this normal ? Are passengers allowed in a cargo compartment ? (obvously yes). What about the cabin pressurisation ? Any clarification is appreciated. Thank you.

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User currently offlineSammyk From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1688 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (14 years 1 month 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 840 times:
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1) No, all 81 747-300s were delivered as original -300s. Below is info from the Boeing website of who got what, and when. Hope it helps.

2) Was this are you sat in converted with seats and all? It is allowed if the areas is converted for passenger use. As far as using cargo area, UPS converts its 727s (some of them) for weekend charter use, they unplug the windows, and install seats and walls, etc...

March 01, 1983 UTA 747-300 CF6 1
March 05, 1983 SWISSAIR 747-300 JT9D 1
March 19, 1983 SWISSAIR 747-300 JT9D 1
April 14, 1983 SOUTH AFRICAN AIRWAYS 747-300 JT9D 1
April 29, 1983 SINGAPORE AIRLINES 747-300 JT9D 1
May 02, 1983 SOUTH AFRICAN AIRWAYS 747-300 JT9D 1
June 21, 1983 SINGAPORE AIRLINES 747-300 JT9D 1
June 30, 1983 SINGAPORE AIRLINES 747-300 JT9D 1
September 30, 1983 KLM - ROYAL DUTCH AIRLINES 747-300 CF6 1
November 22, 1983 SINGAPORE AIRLINES 747-300 JT9D 1
November 29, 1983 JAPAN AIRLINES 747-300 JT9D 1
November 30, 1983 SWISSAIR 747-300 JT9D 1
December 08, 1983 JAPAN AIRLINES 747-300 JT9D 1
December 16, 1983 SWISSAIR 747-300 JT9D 1
December 22, 1983 SAUDI ARAB-GOVERNMENT 747-300 JT9D 1
February 24, 1984 SINGAPORE AIRLINES 747-300 JT9D 1
June 28, 1984 SINGAPORE AIRLINES 747-300 JT9D 1
September 13, 1984 KLM - ROYAL DUTCH AIRLINES 747-300 CF6 1
October 30, 1984 SINGAPORE AIRLINES 747-300 JT9D 1
November 13, 1984 QANTAS AIRWAYS 747-300 RB211 1
December 06, 1984 JAPAN AIRLINES 747-300 JT9D 1
December 12, 1984 KOREAN AIR LINES 747-300 JT9D 1
January 24, 1985 QANTAS AIRWAYS 747-300 RB211 1
February 04, 1985 JAPAN AIRLINES 747-300 JT9D 1
March 20, 1985 SINGAPORE AIRLINES 747-300 JT9D 1
April 15, 1985 KOREAN AIR LINES 747-300 JT9D 1
April 15, 1985 QANTAS AIRWAYS 747-300 RB211 1
April 30, 1985 SINGAPORE AIRLINES 747-300 JT9D 1
June 13, 1985 CATHAY PACIFIC AIRWAYS 747-300 RB211 1
July 12, 1985 SAUDIA 747-300 RB211 1
August 02, 1985 SAUDIA 747-300 RB211 1
August 21, 1985 SAUDIA 747-300 RB211 1
September 24, 1985 SINGAPORE AIRLINES 747-300 JT9D 1
October 24, 1985 SAUDIA 747-300 RB211 1
December 10, 1985 VARIG AIRLINES 747-300 CF6 1
December 11, 1985 SINGAPORE AIRLINES 747-300 JT9D 1
December 19, 1985 VARIG AIRLINES 747-300 CF6 1
December 20, 1985 SAUDIA 747-300 RB211 1
January 17, 1986 SAUDIA 747-300 RB211 1
January 31, 1986 UTA 747-300 CF6 1
February 14, 1986 CATHAY PACIFIC AIRWAYS 747-300 RB211 1
March 14, 1986 SAUDIA 747-300 RB211 1
March 25, 1986 SINGAPORE AIRLINES 747-300 JT9D 1
March 31, 1986 QANTAS AIRWAYS 747-300 RB211 1
April 15, 1986 JAPAN AIRLINES 747-300 JT9D 1
April 24, 1986 UTA 747-300 CF6 1
June 11, 1986 SABENA 747-300 CF6 1
July 17, 1986 MALAYSIA AIRLINES 747-300 JT9D 1
July 24, 1986 SAUDIA 747-300 RB211 1
August 20, 1986 SAUDIA 747-300 RB211 1
August 27, 1986 SINGAPORE AIRLINES 747-300 JT9D 1
October 02, 1986 JAPAN AIRLINES 747-300 JT9D 1
October 03, 1986 KLM - ROYAL DUTCH AIRLINES 747-300 CF6 1
October 10, 1986 CATHAY PACIFIC AIRWAYS 747-300 RB211 1
November 10, 1986 SAUDIA 747-300 RB211 1
November 12, 1986 QANTAS AIRWAYS 747-300 RB211 1
December 15, 1986 JAPAN AIRLINES 747-300 JT9D 1
February 05, 1987 JAPAN AIRLINES 747-300 JT9D 1
February 12, 1987 CATHAY PACIFIC AIRWAYS 747-300 RB211 1
March 20, 1987 SINGAPORE AIRLINES 747-300 JT9D 1
May 01, 1987 QANTAS AIRWAYS 747-300 RB211 1
November 18, 1987 CATHAY PACIFIC AIRWAYS 747-300 RB211 1
December 03, 1987 THAI AIRWAYS INTL 747-300 CF6 1
December 04, 1987 SWISSAIR 747-300 JT9D 1
December 10, 1987 JAPAN AIRLINES 747-300 JT9D 1
December 16, 1987 THAI AIRWAYS INTL 747-300 CF6 1
January 28, 1988 JAPAN AIRLINES 747-300 JT9D 1
February 09, 1988 JAPAN AIRLINES 747-300 JT9D 1
February 19, 1988 JAPAN AIRLINES 747-300 JT9D 1
March 07, 1988 JAPAN AIRLINES 747-300 JT9D 1
April 30, 1988 ILFC 747-300 CF6 1
May 13, 1988 ILFC 747-300 CF6 1
May 27, 1988 ILFC 747-300 CF6 1
June 23, 1988 EGYPTAIR 747-300 JT9D 1
June 30, 1988 EGYPTAIR 747-300 JT9D 1
July 20, 1988 CATHAY PACIFIC AIRWAYS 747-300 RB211 1
August 30, 1988 KOREAN AIR LINES 747-300 JT9D 1
October 18, 1988 JAPAN ASIA AIRWAYS 747-300 JT9D 1
October 21, 1988 AIR INDIA 747-300 CF6 1
November 22, 1988 AIR INDIA 747-300 CF6 1
September 25, 1990 SABENA 747-300 CF6 1
Total: 81


User currently offlineDash8 From New Zealand, joined Aug 2005, 1 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (14 years 1 month 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 834 times:

Also all cargo compartemnts are pressurised. Even on normal jetliners with cargo holds under the floor. They must be pressurised otherwise the floor won't hold.
So there's no problem there. What I really want to know is related to the fire suppresion system.
If it's a combi, it has to have fire suppresion in the "Combi" part of the plane that has cargo. It's a requirement.
Now when it's changed to passeng r config., is that system modified also?
Hope someone with this knowledge can shed some light on this.
p.s. KLM's 747's fly almost everyday to our island.
They're beautiful birds. Anyone remember when they were still light blue in colour, instead of this newer brighter blue?


Regards,

Xander


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