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Northwest Cargo Interested In 747-400SF!  
User currently offlineNa From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10817 posts, RR: 9
Posted (11 years 11 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1735 times:

According to Flight International Northwest might become the lauch customer for the 747-400 SF when the first 744 will be converted to a freighter. Although very happy with their fleet of 747-200Fs (and their low operating cost!) Northwest might need the extra range of the 744.

This news of cause will again start rumours of NWA buying some surplus 744s from United!

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User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (11 years 11 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1718 times:

yeah or Northwest converting its passenger jets to freighters.

Hopefully Northwest will buy them brand new to give Boeing a boost.


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16365 posts, RR: 56
Reply 2, posted (11 years 11 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1709 times:

Interesting info.

Although I would imagine NW focusing on removing the passenger 742 before the 742F. With a fleet of 20 742 and 12(?) 742F's, maybe NW could make UA an offer for some surplus 744's. Ironically, there are 2 -451's in the UA fleet from a cancelled NW 744 order in the mid-90's.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineNWA320 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (11 years 11 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1706 times:

That would be great! so these aircraft will have the long upper deck right?

User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 11 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1701 times:

so these aircraft will have the long upper deck right?

If it's a 747-400SF, then it'll have the -400 upper deck. Which isn't advantageous, to be honest.


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16365 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (11 years 11 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1702 times:

Correct. The planned 744SF would retain the SUD as does the 743SF.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineMr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (11 years 11 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1668 times:

Why isn't it good to have a -400 deck? I would thought it's seats that occupy the upper deck?


Boeing747 万岁!
User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 7, posted (11 years 11 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1660 times:

On the -400 passenger its good.

But on a freight-only aircraft, not too much point.

Although I'd think they could pack bulk mail and freight up there...

N


User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4466 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (11 years 11 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1652 times:

I believe that the extended deck on the 747-400 creates height requirements on cargo loaded through the nose. I would also assume that NW will be purchasing surplus United aircraft.


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User currently offlineSinlock From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1652 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (11 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1554 times:

"I believe that the extended deck on the 747-400 creates height requirements on cargo loaded through the nose."

CX747,
You have it almost right, The 747-200/400 do have a hight limit for cargo load from the nose, but it is the same no matter if the aircraft is "SUD" or "Non-SUD" The hight limit is caused by the support trusses for the upper deck including the cockpit. There is no limit for cargo aft of the upper deck trusses, that is why the -400F is built with the "Classic" upper deck.

From all the things I have read on the proposed -400SF there is no plan to install a nose "hatch", only the port side cargo door like all 747F's have.



My Country can beat up your Country....
User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 10, posted (11 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1552 times:

Only factory-fresh 747 freighters have the nose hatch.

N


User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7811 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (11 years 11 months 4 weeks ago) and read 1524 times:

Additionally cargo operators using the 747-300 basically have removed a significant portion of the upper deck, leaving a main deck hold similiar to the 747-100/200


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User currently offlineAlaskaairlines From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2054 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1495 times:

That sure would be nice!

-Dmitry


User currently offlineAcidradio From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1875 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1496 times:
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They should make some DC9F's  Smile


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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 14, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1491 times:

There are DC9Fs. Airborne Express uses them.

Saw it today in COS.

N


User currently offlineCX 4ever From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 129 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1485 times:

I heard that CX is also interested in B747-400SF as its 744 passenger fleet is aging. CX may convert the several oldest 744 passenger to 744SF if Boeing has the plan worked out.

User currently offlineNa From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10817 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1478 times:

Addditional information: The first 744 converted to a freighter will not be flying before 2005.

User currently offlineAirlineguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 348 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1369 times:

Does NWA Cargo 747 have loadmasters?

I would very much like to find a position with NWA cargo side.


User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 27
Reply 18, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1327 times:

I guess I'm a little behind here. . .what does the "SF" stand for? Is it Super Freighter, or what?


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User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1326 times:

Special Freighter.

User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 27
Reply 20, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1325 times:

Thanks for the quick response.  Wink/being sarcastic

DIA



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