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User currently offlineBroke From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 1322 posts, RR: 3
Posted (13 years 7 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2462 times:

Tankers and their crews are the unsung heros of many a pilot. I've heard stories of tankers hooking up with a fighter who ran out of fuel and had his engine die. The tanker descended with the fighter, refueled him, and he got home. There several stories from Viet Nam like this. There are stories of tankers going into Southern Iraq during Desert Storm to refuel a plane that wasn't going to get home if they didn't get fuel. I've talked with an A-10 pilot who came home because a tanker crew stuck their neck out, big time. Does anyone have any first person experiences like these or better?

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User currently offlineUSAFJR From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (13 years 7 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2382 times:

just a note on the side... I heard that the SR-71 Blackbird has a tanker designed for it and it alone... its like the KC-130K or R or something... cant remember.

User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (13 years 7 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2379 times:

Can't be a KC-130, since the SR-71 (like all other AR-capable USAF a/c) uses the Boom air-refueling system.


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User currently offlineSouthflite From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 7 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2396 times:

The tanker adapted for refuelling the SR-71 Blackbird was the KC-135Q Stratotanker, all since re-engined to KC-135T standard. It wasn't dedicated to refuelling the SR-71 - it was capable of carrying the fuel that that aircraft needed, but could also carry "normal" fuel for other types.

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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 30262 posts, RR: 57
Reply 4, posted (13 years 7 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2377 times:

Didn't they have to do a tank purge when they switched fuels from J-6(SR-71 fuel) to Jet-A?

Also wasn't there a heating system for the fuel before it went out to the boom. From what I have read, Blackbird gas was pretty thick.

User currently offlineLt-AWACS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (13 years 7 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2371 times:

I have tons of stories. I have personally vectored tankers all over southern IRaq and Afghanistan to refuel other guys who didn't hit the tanker legs. It happens on a daily basis.

there are literally 1000's of stories. I enjoy working with the tankers, busy but fun indeed.


User currently offlineUSAFJR From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (13 years 7 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2351 times:

oh yeah... thats right... it was the KC-135Q, sorry about that..

User currently offlineSaintsman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 2065 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (13 years 7 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2318 times:

Not first hand, but one of the most impressive tanker stories is the one that involved the Vulcan bombing the runway at Port Stanley in the Falkland Islands. To get it there and back, the tankers had to refuel tankers which refuelled tankers etc. That must have taken some co-ordinating. Does anyone know how many tanking operations occured?

User currently offlineBroke From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 1322 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (13 years 7 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2305 times:

References to the SR-71. Both the U-2 family and the SR-71's use (or used) JP-7. The reason for this special fuel is that at the altitudes these airplanes operate (or operated) their range would be restricted by the evaporation rate of the fuel (JP-4). So a fuel with a very low vapor pressure (JP-7) was developed. This fuel is also very difficult to light off; I know the SR-71's used a hypergolic (spelling?) ignition system in which a fluid, that ignites on contact with oxygen, is injected into the burner section (and the afterburner or reheat to Brits) and this ignites the fuel. If you see a film of either an engine start or an A/B light of a SR-71, look for the green flash before ignition. That is the hypergolic fluid lighting off. I don't know what type of ignition system the U-2's use.
KC-135's and KC-10's were adapted to carry this fuel. The KC-135Q is the SR-71 refueler.
I would still like to get some tanker stories, if anyone has some.

User currently offlineSterne82 From Belgium, joined May 2000, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (13 years 7 months 9 hours ago) and read 2259 times:

About tankers,

Does the Netherlands Air Force have some plans to replace their KDC-10 with "KMD-11" (for example, ex KLM birds)?

Because their KDC-10 are slowly but surely ageing and need to be replace in a middle-term...?!



User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8683 posts, RR: 22
Reply 10, posted (13 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2233 times:

Can't haul ass without tanker gas!

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