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U.S.A.F. Bases, Which Is Largest?  
User currently offlineTiger119 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1919 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

On a page on the EDW website, it is stated that EDW is the second largest air force base http://www.edwards.af.mil/units/

The 95th Air Base Wing is the host wing for Edwards Air Force Base, Calif. -- the 2nd largest base in the Air Force.

Which U.S.A.F. base is "The Largest?" And are they saying "2nd larges base in the Air Force" because of square miles, number of personnel, length of runways and taxiways? If I had to take a guess, I would guess Ramstein.

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User currently offlineDragon6172 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 1203 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

I believe its Eglin AFB, Florida. Another big test and evaluation base like Edwards.


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User currently offlineCurt22 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

I seem to recall Eglin AFB FL holds claim as the largest USAF base. Eglin "owns" much of NW Florida, most of which is forest land and they also have a bunch of high dollar beachfront property that is left in it's natural state much to the disappointment of the greedy land Barron's who want to cover every inch of sand with condos.

User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16883 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

If you include ranges I would think Nellis would be the largest, the Nellis range is huge.


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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 32767 times:



Quoting Tiger119 (Thread starter):
I would guess Ramstein.

Not even close......



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User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3544 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
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Quoting Tiger119 (Thread starter):
Which U.S.A.F. base is "The Largest?" And are they saying "2nd larges base in the Air Force" because of square miles, number of personnel, length of runways and taxiways? If I had to take a guess, I would guess Ramstein.



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 4):
Not even close......

Depends on what criteria you are using... In terms of people Ramstein/Kaiserlautern Military Community had, at it's height in the early '90s, 80000 US personnel including US Govt civilians, contractors, and family members. In terms of people it was the largest installation not just in USAF but in DoD.... and that doesn't include the German employees...



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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16883 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

As ZanL188 mentioned it's the criteria:

Largest population
footprint (sq mi.)
Aircraft/squadrons
Runways
ramp/apron space
hangars etc..

I'll give a shout out to the base closest to my Home, McGuire AFB NJ. As per the 2005 BRAC McGuire is growing in many ways:

1.) McGuire AFB is merging with adjacent Fort Dix (Army) and Lakehurst Naval Air Engineering Station, all three facilities border each other and now McGuire will assume installation command of the three facilities providing security, snow plowing etc. It will be the only joint Army, Navy and Air Force installation in the Country.

2.) Some 38 aircraft are moving to McGuire AFB with the closing of Willow Grove Joint Reserve Base and Marines at Johnstown Cambria airport PA.

Once the BRAC moves are complete McGuire AFB will be home to the following aircraft:

Air Force:
32 KC-10s, 13 C-17s

Air National Guard:
8 KC-135Rs

Navy Reserve:
4 C-130Ts
4 C-9s
1 C-12

Marine Corps Reserves:
11 AH-1 and UH-1s
11 CH-53Es

Army Reserve:
8 C-12s and C-35s

Plus the NJ Army National Guard are moving their 20+ Helicopters and C-12s from West Trenton Airport to Lakehurst NAES.

The combined Fort Dix, McGuire AFB, Lakehurst NAES are forming into a mega base.



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User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3544 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
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Quoting STT757 (Reply 6):
The combined Fort Dix, McGuire AFB, Lakehurst NAES are forming into a mega base.

Ft Lewis & McChord AFB are going the same route... Lewis-McChord Joint base - there's a mouthful...

http://info.lewis-mcchord.army.mil/



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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16883 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 32767 times:



Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 7):


Quoting STT757 (Reply 6):
The combined Fort Dix, McGuire AFB, Lakehurst NAES are forming into a mega base.

Ft Lewis & McChord AFB are going the same route... Lewis-McChord Joint base - there's a mouthful...

http://info.lewis-mcchord.army.mil/

Makes sense as there are a few places where there are multiple service stations, I think BRAC ordered the following installations to merge.

McGuire AFB, Fort Dix, Lakehurst NAES
McChord, Fort Lewis
Charleston AFB, Charleston Naval Weapons station
Pope AFB, Fort Bragg
Pearl Harbor NS, Hickam AFB
Fort Sam Houston and Air Force hospital who's name escapes me?..



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User currently offlineF4wso From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 974 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 32767 times:



Quoting STT757 (Reply 8):
Fort Sam Houston and Air Force hospital who's name escapes me?..

Brooks Army Medical Center (BAMC)

Wilford Hall, at Lackland, has been scaled way back to where it isn't a hospital anymore.
source is a former flight nurse sitting three feet away.

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User currently offlineArniePie From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 1265 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

As far as US airbases go, wasn't the former Da Nang Airbase the biggest ( as in busiest) airbase ever in operation?
I'm sure I read somewhere that they had more than 1000.000 flights per year .

Also Okinawa (kadena) must rank pretty high, no?

As for in the US, how about OFFUT and Langley ?



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User currently offlineTtailfe From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 8 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

The largest AFB is Eglin. The ground area is over 732sq miles, and they control over 100,000sq miles of range airspace in the Gulf. This hands down is bigger than any other western military base in the world.

As for McGuire, may it rot in NJ (I spent 11 years there flying C-141's and KC-10's, but I would go back to the 10's in a heart beat).


User currently offlineNorlander From Faroe Islands, joined Sep 2007, 163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 32767 times:



Quoting Ttailfe (Reply 11):

Odd that you say that, going by the size reported in the US Census Eglin is quite small, only a couple of square miles. If you include bombing ranges then Nellis joins in the running (the ground area for the Nellis range is more then 732 sq miles, it's 4687 sq miles) and if you include control of airspace then both Hickam and Elmendorf are contenders with over 100,000sq miles, Thule and Vandenberg might even be in the running on that characteristic as well, as they control quite a lot of air space over oceans.

As for the air force base with the most ground in the "western world" I'll nominate the WPA in Australia:

Quote:
The Woomera Prohibited Area has an area of 127,000 square kilometres (49,000 sq mi) and is the largest land-based defence and aerospace range in the world. It is roughly the size of England.




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User currently offlineVikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 10091 posts, RR: 26
Reply 13, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
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Quoting Norlander (Reply 12):
Odd that you say that, going by the size reported in the US Census Eglin is quite small, only a couple of square miles.

I think the US Census data for military installations tends to consist of the census-designated "housing area" or whatever you would call it.

It's by no means the whole land area of the base.



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User currently offlineNorlander From Faroe Islands, joined Sep 2007, 163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 32767 times:



Quoting Vikkyvik (Reply 13):

Fair enough, I don't know if that is the case but sounds reasonable to only count the housing areas. Point regarding Nellis still stands though, the ground area area listed by Ttailfe (732 sq miles for Eglin) is quite a bit less then the 4687 sq miles of the Nellis range, but maybe the Nellis bombing range should be counted separately from the main AFB. An as for the off-shore air space, the 4 bases I mentioned are also in contention.



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User currently offlineHaveBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2116 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

I have heard many times since I was a kid that Eglin AFB was the USAF's largest base. I do believe that to be true, and I always assumed it was based on the land area of the actual AF base itself, unlike the Nellis 'ranges'.


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User currently offlineF4wso From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 974 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

There is a lot of the Nellis ranges that are Department of Energy controlled. Other special use airspace does not go all the way down to the surface. The land is privately owned. The Nellis controlled land is in the upper left corner where all the air to ground targets are located. I was just consulting my range chart that used in a 1992 GREEN FLAG.

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User currently offlineFRAspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2357 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

What about the largest USAF base based on the number of Air Force Personnel? Lackland?


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User currently offlineBubbaJin From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Joint Base Balad has to be up there in total population as well. Especially when you consider the total amount of personnel stationed at the site. I believe it is the "busiest" air base in terms of air traffic.

User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5714 posts, RR: 44
Reply 19, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
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Quoting Norlander (Reply 12):
As for the air force base with the most ground in the "western world" I'll nominate the WPA in Australia:

Whilst it is administered by the DOD and is likely the largest land based range in the world I would not consider the WPA to be an "Air Force Base"

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User currently offlineAGC525 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 989 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Wright-Patterson....


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User currently offlineVikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 10091 posts, RR: 26
Reply 21, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
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Quoting AGC525 (Reply 20):
Wright-Patterson....

By land area? Not a chance.

Don't know about personnel numbers, though.



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User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

I believe Sheppard AFB has the largest number of based aircraft...

User currently offlinePP705 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Without doubt the largest is .......................... AREA 51  wink 

User currently offlineKiqaboy From Sweden, joined Feb 2006, 171 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

In Balkan Camp Bondsteel is the biggest one i think there are 2200 troops stationed there and a load of heavy armor, tanks,Black Hawk and Apache Helicopters,
Camp Bondsteel is stationed on south west part of Rep.of Kosova and is part of the NATO peacekeeping force in Kosova (K-FOR).

there are no runway for aircraft there but by looking on the map of Camp Bondsteel in Google earth there is a 3 km space perfect for a runway and it might be the next USAF base
maybe not but I m just predicting on this.

on the link below i have take Camp Bondsteel from Google earth and measured the place were the potential runway could be.

http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.fil...36908702&filename=php0v3Zkc..jpegy



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