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Obama Gets First Ride On C-32A!  
User currently offlineStasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3283 posts, RR: 6
Posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 10626 times:

President-Elect Obama arrived at Andrews Air Force Base this evening from Chicago Midway aboard A C-32A VIP aircraft along with his wife Michelle and his staff and press pool.

According to CNN, this was his first trip aboard a federal government VIP aircraft. Obama was introduced to the Chief Steward who will be the Chief Steward on Air Force One once Obama is in office.

Obama also commented to the press onboard the C-32A that the aircraft was "pretty nice digs"!

This was Obama's final trip from Chicago prior to his swearing in as the new President of the United States.

[Edited 2009-01-04 16:08:02]

[Edited 2009-01-04 16:11:22]


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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12146 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 10557 times:

His two daughters were aboard too.

But, this is not unusual as the USAF always picks up the President-Elect for their flight to ADW about one to two weeks before they are sworn in.

Then President-Elect George W. Bush, wife, and family was flown to ADW aboard a C-32A in January 2001. Then President-Elect Bill and Hillery Clinton flew aboard a VC-137C in January 1993. In fact all President-Elects since 1968 have been flown to ADW aboard a USAF VC-137B or C or the C-32A (for Bush and Obama).

These are SAAM missions and use the aircraft tail number as the call sign (for example: SAAM 26000 for the early VC-137C)


User currently offlineFlypig687 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 56 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 10205 times:

Just to clairfy:

The flight last night was only Barak Obama as his wife and two daughters got to DC on Saturday and I am not sure if they flew military or not.

Secondly, since Obama was previously a senator he has flown in those type of aircraft before, this was his first flight on military hardware as the President-Elect.


User currently offlineStasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3283 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 10164 times:



Quoting Flypig687 (Reply 2):
Secondly, since Obama was previously a senator he has flown in those type of aircraft before, this was his first flight on military hardware as the President-Elect.

First, one should never trust CNN to report accurately! Secondly, I guess what had the biggest impact on me personally was watching the President-Elect step off an aircraft with "United States of America" in big letters down the side of it.

It's one of those moments that makes the tidal change in the U.S. administrations seem so "real". I just pray that the "change" we Americans were all promised is just as real.



"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety!" B.Franklin
User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 9988 times:



Quoting StasisLAX (Reply 3):
It's one of those moments that makes the tidal change in the U.S. administrations seem so "real". I just pray that the "change" we Americans were all promised is just as real.

And the fact that the "Change" occurs every 4-8 years without any shots fired, no coups, no riots, nothing. Maybe just a bunch of dissapointed voters, right?

I'll still miss Bush walking down those steps- he knew how to give a great salute to the guards at the bottom.

DeltaGuy


User currently offlineMoose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2323 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 9950 times:



Quoting DeltaGuy (Reply 4):

I'll still miss Bush walking down those steps- he knew how to give a great salute to the guards at the bottom.

And he wasn't a bad dancer either...



 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 



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User currently offlineNorlander From Faroe Islands, joined Sep 2007, 163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 9779 times:



Quoting DeltaGuy (Reply 4):
I'll still miss Bush walking down those steps- he knew how to give a great salute to the guards at the bottom.

If that is the presidential criteria then I don't understand why you don't just have a monarchy. About the only thing the Royals know how to do well is a proper salute...



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User currently offlineDEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4837 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (5 years 8 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 9099 times:

A liitle insight.....

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...ck-obamas-first-official-usaf.html



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User currently offlineStasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3283 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (5 years 8 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8913 times:



Quoting DEVILFISH (Reply 7):
A liitle insight.....

Wow, what a great clip! Gave me chills AND a good laugh when the President tells the new AF1 pilot that he looks like Sam Shepard!

Thanks for sharing it.



"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety!" B.Franklin
User currently offlineTiger119 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1919 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 8 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 8843 times:



Quoting Norlander (Reply 6):
If that is the presidential criteria then I don't understand why you don't just have a monarchy.

- It is in reference to the fact that The POTUS is Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces in The United States of America.

OK, so the President-Elect arrived at ADW in one of the C-32s. How did President and Mrs Bush (#43) get back to Crawford, TX? Was it a military flight or civil? C-32, VC-25, C-20, C-37, C-40? All adequate I believe. Also when President and Mrs Bush left the White House today, was it by helicopter or motorcade?

David



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User currently offlineDalb777 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2192 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 8 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 8840 times:

Quoting Tiger119 (Reply 9):
OK, so the President-Elect arrived at ADW in one of the C-32s. How did President and Mrs Bush (#43) get back to Crawford, TX? Was it a military flight or civil? C-32, VC-25, C-20, C-37, C-40? All adequate I believe. Also when President and Mrs Bush left the White House today, was it by helicopter or motorcade?

When the inauguration ceremony was over, Bush boarded one of the "Marine One" helicopters (but it wasn't called Marine One because he was no longer pres.) that took him from the Capitol to ADW. He then had a private gathering for some of his supporters in a hangar, then boarded one of the VC-25s, tail number 28000. The flight to Midland, TX was identified as SAM 28000. SAM stands for Special Air Mission.

[Edited 2009-01-20 22:06:19]


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User currently offlineTiger119 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1919 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 8 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 8795 times:



Quoting Dalb777 (Reply 10):
tail number 28000

- That was the original VC-25, right? 29000 was the second?

David



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User currently offlineLexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2515 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8725 times:

28000 was the first VC-25. 29000 followed somewhat close behind though.


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User currently offlineCainanUK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 551 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 8596 times:



Quoting Dalb777 (Reply 10):
Bush boarded one of the "Marine One" helicopters (but it wasn't called Marine One because he was no longer pres.)

It was callsign "Executive 1".



Cainan Cornelius
User currently offlineMoose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2323 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 8586 times:



Quoting CainanUK (Reply 13):
It was callsign "Executive 1".

I heard that somewhere, but I don't understand why they would use that call sign. "Executive 1" is the C/S used when the President is on a civilian aircraft. Neither was the case here.



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User currently offlineStasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3283 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 8545 times:



Quoting Moose135 (Reply 14):
when the President

Bush was a former President at the time of the flight from Andrews to Texas. Obama was sworn in by that time as the new President, thus the use of the "Executive One" callsign for ex-President Bush's flights.  cheerful 



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User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8964 posts, RR: 39
Reply 16, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 8541 times:

When's the next Air Force One flight on the VC-25?


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User currently offlineLexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2515 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 8523 times:



Quoting PPVRA (Reply 16):
When's the next Air Force One flight on the VC-25?

It's not known yet.



Nashville, Tennessee KBNA
User currently offlineMoose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2323 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 8521 times:



Quoting StasisLAX (Reply 15):
Bush was a former President at the time of the flight from Andrews to Texas. Obama was sworn in by that time as the new President, thus the use of the "Executive One" callsign for ex-President Bush's flights

My point that the use of the "Executive 1" c/s is (to my knowledge) only used for when the sitting President travels on a civilian aircraft. Just as the VC-25 used the call sign "SAM 29000" when flying GWB back to Texas, I would have expected the Marine helicopter to use some similar Marine c/s. "Executive 1" would be inappropriate for use when carrying a former President.



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User currently offlineTiger119 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1919 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 8494 times:



Quoting Lexy (Reply 17):
Quoting PPVRA (Reply 16):
When's the next Air Force One flight on the VC-25?

It's not known yet.

- I want to bet that for the first several months any trips President B H Obama will take to the eastern half of the continent, he will probably select the C-32. My reasoning is recognizing the economy and budget. Just a guess, The Secret Service may have differing opinions.

David



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User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8485 times:



Quoting Tiger119 (Reply 19):
I want to bet that for the first several months any trips President B H Obama will take to the eastern half of the continent, he will probably select the C-32. My reasoning is recognizing the economy and budget. Just a guess, The Secret Service may have differing opinions.

To the best of my knowledge, the President has little say over which aircraft is used in his travels. The decision is made by the Secret Service, the White House Travel Office, and somewhere within the 89th Airlift Wing.

I would imagine that he could request a specific aircraft type, though those charged with is safety would probably explain to him why their decision is the best.


User currently offlinePADSpot From Germany, joined Jan 2005, 1676 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 8476 times:



Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 20):
I would imagine that he could request a specific aircraft type, though those charged with is safety would probably explain to him why their decision is the best.

He's the commander in chief. If he really chooses to be flown on a smaller aircraft for economical or just publicity reasons, he will have the final word in that.

The point is that he will probably not have to arrogance to overrule the professional opinion of people who work in their jobs a lot longer than he does ....


User currently offlineBlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1813 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8281 times:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/pol...01/23/kaye.obama.air.force.one.cnn

I want to see if anyone can make a list of how many things CNN / Nat Geo Got wrong in this video.

Terrible.


User currently offlineMike89406 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1467 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 8149 times:

Anyone watching the documentary on Sunday?

Mike


User currently offlineTiger119 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1919 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8115 times:



Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 22):
want to see if anyone can make a list of how many things CNN / Nat Geo Got wrong in this video.

- The link would not open up for me, but CNN HLN just teased a show to air the evening on the 25th on National Geographic Channel and it showed President B H Obama on one othe the VC-25s. It showed him getting on a plane in or around Chicago (I imagine ORD) and then getting off at ADW.

Quoting Mike89406 (Reply 23):
Anyone watching the documentary on Sunday?

- It looks like it is going to be a decent show. I did not realize that with a new administration that the new president gets a different VC-25 Commander.

David



Flying is the second greatest thrill known to mankind, landing is the first!
25 BlueElephant : CNN says that Nat Geo just happened to catch Obama flying on "Air Force One" Then they show him CLEARLY getting on C-32A....saying he's on Air Force
26 PDXCessna206 : That is correct. They received a brand new armored limousine, (makes me drool) and it is a diesel that gets about 8 mpg. Now, they "might" be able to
27 Post contains links Mike89406 : This is the one Obama will be flying. http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2088548/barack_obamas_new_air_force_one/[Edited 2009-01-24 21:04:26]
28 Tiger119 : " target=_blank>http://www.metacafe.com/watch/208854..._one/ - The link would not open for me, I would have liked to seen it. - As far as the show on
29 Moose135 : You didn't miss anything. It's a stupid clip from the movie "Soul Plane". Since the show aired within a week of his inauguration, and before he flew
30 Post contains links Mike89406 : http://www.videosurf.com/video/barra...w-air-force-one-air-plane-58073689
31 Tiger119 : - Surely the flight crews for the VC-25s are different crews off the C-32s, right?
32 Moose135 : Not necessarily - they could be qualified in both aircraft, with the "President's pilots" flying him in whichever plane he is using. Some of our memb
33 Kuba74 : This topic makes me wondering whether Mr Obama has already officially flown VC-25?
34 Moose135 : I doubt it - I don't believe he has traveled outside of Washington since the inauguration.
35 Lexy : He has not yet. Since the inaguration, he has stayed in Washington to work on getting the economy back on the right road again.
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