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User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3524 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 21270 times:
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The last of the Nimitz Class ships commisioned today...

http://bushcommissioning.com/

When will the new carrier class start commissioning?


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User currently offlineAirRyan From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2532 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 21255 times:

Bush 41 should have been the name for the next generation of US CVN's, not G. Ford who wasn't even a Naval Aviator.

User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3524 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 21233 times:
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Quoting AirRyan (Reply 1):
Ford who wasn't even a Naval Aviator.

Neither was Nimitz.... Submariner & destroyer officer as I recall...



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User currently offlineAirRyan From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2532 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 21206 times:



Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 2):
Neither was Nimitz.... Submariner & destroyer officer as I recall...

Obviously there is no set standard when it comes to naming USN vessels (Vinson, Stennis, etc.) but Admiral Nimitz was the Fleet Admiral of the Pacific Forces that won the second world war against the Japanese so I can understand that decision very easily.

However, not to belittle Ford's four years of Naval service, as he did serve in combat operations, but his Naval career was no more stellar than supervising an anti-aircraft battery on an aircraft carrier (and then riding his ship through Halsey's typhoon) - there are many a fine Naval Aviators (only Naval Aviators can serve as Captain on an aircraft carrier) that could have been the namesake for the entire next generation of the most advanced nuclear powered aircraft carrier ever constructed.

Sure, G. Ford should have his name on a USN vessel, but not the entire class of next generation carriers if even a carrier in the first place, an AEGIS cruiser would have been just fine.

Personally, I think the already soft modern Navy got even softer and capitulated the naming honor in correlation to Ford's passing just three weeks prior.

As a die-hard Chevy V-8 fan, I scoff at the notion of a big old nasty Ford emblem somewhere on the ship and subsequent vessels - a sign of quality, my ass - what a joke!

While I think John S, McCain III will get his name on one of these new CVN-78's, he should have been the name bearer for the entire class - Naval Academy alum, Naval Aviator, 5.5 years in a POW camp, and retired from the Navy after some nearly 27 years of service.


User currently offlinePar13del From Bahamas, joined Dec 2005, 7221 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 21128 times:



Quoting AirRyan (Reply 3):
While I think John S, McCain III will get his name on one of these new CVN-78's, he should have been the name bearer for the entire class - Naval Academy alum, Naval Aviator, 5.5 years in a POW camp, and retired from the Navy after some nearly 27 years of service.

Since they are now honouring folks while they are alive, it will have to be a ship and not a class, a new class of carriers are decades away, same for submarines, since the Zummalt class destroyer seems to be on hold, how about a new low cost frigate?


User currently offlineDiamondFlyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1547 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 21072 times:



Quoting Par13del (Reply 4):
a new class of carriers are decades away

Huh? I believe that the 1st of the Gerald R. Ford class CVN's is to be laid down this year. I'm not real up to speed on military things, but, I know that we've got a new class of CV's on the way, and they look like they're going to be good ships.


-DiamondFlyer


User currently offlineUH60FtRucker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 21063 times:



Quoting AirRyan (Reply 3):
Sure, G. Ford should have his name on a USN vessel, but not the entire class of next generation carriers if even a carrier in the first place, an AEGIS cruiser would have been just fine.

Personally, I think the already soft modern Navy got even softer and capitulated the naming honor in correlation to Ford's passing just three weeks prior.

This is just another example of the sh*tty legacy Rumsfeld left.

The USS Gerald R. Ford had a lot to do with the fact that both SecDef Rumsfeld and VP Cheney worked closely for the past president, and publicly pushed for the naming of the next carrier, after their old boss.

SecDef Rumsfeld, being the sleezy bastard he is, ended the debate by publicly announcing the carrier's new name, at President Ford's funeral. Which pretty much shut the door on any doubts the Navy had, since they surely couldn't retract such a statement, made at such a touching moment.

God I hate that guy.

Quoting Par13del (Reply 4):
a new class of carriers are decades away

2015.

CVN-78 should sail in 2015. The contract has already been signed and approved, and Hampton Roads has already begun initial construction. The Big E should be replaced when the USS Ford enters the fleet.

-UH60


User currently offlineJohns624 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 923 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 21041 times:



Quoting DiamondFlyer (Reply 5):
Huh? I believe that the 1st of the Gerald R. Ford class CVN's is to be laid down this year. I'm not real up to speed on military things, but, I know that we've got a new class of CV's on the way, and they look like they're going to be good ships.

Well, if the next class is the Ford-class, the next class that could be named after McCain IS decades away...


User currently offlineUH60FtRucker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 21023 times:



Quoting Johns624 (Reply 7):

Well, if the next class is the Ford-class, the next class that could be named after McCain IS decades away...

Or they could do a subset, just as there are Roosevelt and Reagan subsets of the Nimitz class.

And if they did name a ship after John McCain, would that be the first time there two ships named for father and son?

USS John S McCain DDG-56, and USS John McCain CVX?

-UH60


User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7780 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 21010 times:



Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 8):
And if they did name a ship after John McCain, would that be the first time there two ships named for father and son?

USS John S McCain DDG-56, and USS John McCain CVX?

Don't forget Adm. McCain Sr. had a destroyer named after himself -- DL-3


I would have preferred if the Navy would have continued to use destroyers for naming people. So many old, retired carriers had great names that I would like to see again. Save the politicking for the tin cans.



Stop drop and roll will not save you in hell. --- seen on a church marque in rural Virginia
User currently offlineUH60FtRucker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 21001 times:



Quoting DesertJets (Reply 9):


I would have preferred if the Navy would have continued to use destroyers for naming people. So many old, retired carriers had great names that I would like to see again. Save the politicking for the tin cans.

I agree. It unfortunately seems as though Washington politics, is becoming more important in the naming of ships, than age-old naval tradition.

I would love to see the return to names like "Intrepid" "Wasp" "Langley" "Independence" and one of my favorites, "America". Although, with that being said, I didn't mind when the Navy named CVN-76, after President Reagan.

-UH60


User currently offlineStudeDave From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 20993 times:



Quoting AirRyan (Reply 3):
As a die-hard Chevy V-8 fan, I scoff at the notion of a big old nasty Ford emblem somewhere on the ship and subsequent vessels - a sign of quality, my ass - what a joke!

Then you're gonna wanna stay away from this ship~ USS Ford (FFG 54).
It is currently based at Naval Station Everett, Washington...

http://www.ford.navy.mil/default.aspx



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User currently offlinePar13del From Bahamas, joined Dec 2005, 7221 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 20984 times:



Quoting DiamondFlyer (Reply 5):
Huh? I believe that the 1st of the Gerald R. Ford class CVN's is to be laid down this year. I'm not real up to speed on military things, but, I know that we've got a new class of CV's on the way, and they look like they're going to be good ships.

Johns624 already answered, but to clarify, the next class of CVN has already been named, so if a class is to be named after Sen. McCain it will be decades away when the Fords come up for replacement.

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 8):
Or they could do a subset, just as there are Roosevelt and Reagan subsets of the Nimitz class.

I know there are difference is virtually all the subsequent Nimitz class ships, never knew they actually recognized some of them as a sub-fleet. If thats the best they can do for him then so be it, but I think I would prefer a class just for him, it is probably sentimental that they want it to be a carrier, how about a new class of amphibs for the Marines and their F-35's, thing with the Brown Water Navy is that a class of major ships could be 4 vessels.

Just a thought.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16870 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 20987 times:



Quoting DiamondFlyer (Reply 5):
Huh? I believe that the 1st of the Gerald R. Ford class CVN's is to be laid down this year. I'm not real up to speed on military things, but, I know that we've got a new class of CV's on the way, and they look like they're going to be good ships.

The contract has gone out, $5.4 Billion IIRC, One of the new features of the new Ford Class are electromagnetic catapults. The Navy just constructed one at Lakehurst NAES and it will begin testing soon, no more steam shots.

Quoting DesertJets (Reply 9):
So many old, retired carriers had great names that I would like to see again.

I would love to see the Forrestal, Yorktown, Midway, Lexington and Coral Sea brought back, as well as Enterprise and Kitty Hawk names maintained. If another Carrier must be named after a President why not bring back the JFK.

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 10):
my favorites, "America".

Apparently that was what CVN-78 was to be named.

CVN-78 will sail in 2015, CVN-79 in 2018 and CVN-80 in 2021.

I would love to see the Navy go to a 12 Carrier fleet from the current 11 carriers, balance them six Atlantic and six Pacific.

Atlantic:
5 Norfolk
1 Mayport

Pacific:
1 Kitsap/Bremerton
1 Everett
2 San Diego
1 Pearl Harbor or Apra Harbor
1 Yokosuka



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User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 20958 times:

I think the name America should be brought back, both as a name of a flattop, and a class. Nothing more fearsome than knowing the America is off your shores.

DeltaGuy


User currently offlineSasd209 From British Indian Ocean Territory, joined Oct 2007, 642 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 20935 times:

I'd like Oriskany or Shangri-La brought back.  Smile

Bonhomme Richard should have been reserved for a CVN, IMO.


User currently offlinePC12Fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2444 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 20819 times:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fb/CVN-78DesignFeatures.jpg


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User currently offlinePar13del From Bahamas, joined Dec 2005, 7221 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 20782 times:



Quoting STT757 (Reply 13):
I would love to see the Navy go to a 12 Carrier fleet from the current 11 carriers, balance them six Atlantic and six Pacific.

Based on the size of the regions, and unbalanced fleet deployment is more realistic. Everyone knows the significane of the D-Day landings of WWII, not many get into the details that the actual numbers of ships and men were dwarfed by similar action in the Pacific.

The Pacific is a much larger region requiring more assets, the Atlantic may still be "prestigious" but how many potential area's of conflict exist over the Atlantic?


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16870 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 20688 times:



Quoting Par13del (Reply 17):
The Pacific is a much larger region requiring more assets, the Atlantic may still be "prestigious" but how many potential area's of conflict exist over the Atlantic?

Well the question is obviously which is the fastest transit to the Gulf, Norfolk or San Diego, Mayport or Bremerton?..



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User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 20655 times:



Quoting STT757 (Reply 13):
I would love to see the Forrestal, Yorktown, Midway, Lexington and Coral Sea brought back, as well as Enterprise and Kitty Hawk names maintained.

Speaking of the Coral Sea here's a picture of her in her final days.

< http://www.usscoralsea.net/images/ex4321.jpg >

Quoting STT757 (Reply 13):
I would love to see the Navy go to a 12 Carrier fleet from the current 11 carriers, balance them six Atlantic and six Pacific.

Atlantic:
5 Norfolk
1 Mayport

Pacific:
1 Kitsap/Bremerton
1 Everett
2 San Diego
1 Pearl Harbor or Apra Harbor
1 Yokosuka

The Navy plans to base a carrier at Mayport to replace the JFK. Of course they will spend about $500 million to build the facilities to support a nuclear carrier.

As neat as it would be to see a carrier based at Pearl Harbor I doubt it would ever happen. Not only would there be the expense of moving the carrier but the squadrons as well. With the current budget situation I also doubt there will be twelve carriers

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 10):
I agree. It unfortunately seems as though Washington politics, is becoming more important in the naming of ships, than age-old naval tradition.

Back in the day the Navy named its submarines after fish. Then Rickover decided to name attack subs after cities. Someone pointed out him the tradition of naming subs after fish. He replied in typical Rickover fashion "Fish don't vote".


User currently offlineStudedave From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 20560 times:



Quoting LMP737 (Reply 19):
Speaking of the Coral Sea here's a picture of her in her final days.

< http://www.usscoralsea.net/images/ex4321.jpg >

As a Sailor who made her last Cruise in '89- that was very hard to look at.
But thanks for posting it, anyway...



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User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 20440 times:



Quoting Studedave (Reply 20):
As a Sailor who made her last Cruise in '89- that was very hard to look at.

I feel the same way when I see pictures like this.

http://www.amarcexperience.com/AMARCArticleF14TomcatDisposal.asp


User currently offlineUH60FtRucker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 20373 times:



Quoting LMP737 (Reply 19):
Speaking of the Coral Sea here's a picture of her in her final days.

< http://www.usscoralsea.net/images/ex4321.jpg >

While it is sad to see that... that photo offers a very interesting real-life cross-section of the internal structure of a carrier. Very fascinating.

Speaking of the Coral Sea, I didn't realize it served so late into history. And that sparked a question I had, what is the largest number of active carriers the US Navy has operated, at one time, post-WWII?

-UH60


User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 20277 times:

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 22):
While it is sad to see that... that photo offers a very interesting real-life cross-section of the internal structure of a carrier. Very fascinating.

Here are the rest of the scrapping pictures of the Coral Sea. It gives you an idea of the complexity of an aircraft carrier. Check out the pictures of the four inch steel of the flight deck being cut into.

http://www.usscoralsea.net/pages/picsexcv43.html

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 22):
Speaking of the Coral Sea, I didn't realize it served so late into history. And that sparked a question I had, what is the largest number of active carriers the US Navy has operated, at one time, post-WWII?

Probably 1968 during the hieght of the Vietnam War and the Cold War. Around seventeen carriers of the Essex class were still in commision. Then there were the three ships of the Midway class. All four ships of the Forrestal class were in service along with the Kitty Hawk, Constellation, America and Enterprise. So that's twenty seven carriers, twenty eight if you include the JFK which was commisioned in September 1968.

[Edited 2009-01-12 08:37:15]

User currently offlineNomadd22 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1866 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 20261 times:



Quoting STT757 (Reply 18):

Well the question is obviously which is the fastest transit to the Gulf, Norfolk or San Diego, Mayport or Bremerton?..

Pearl.



Andy Goetsch
25 Post contains links AirRyan : Wow, what our military could have been had for not the disservice of those two assholes. http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...cs%2FPeople%2FC%2FChe
26 StudeDave : " target=_blank>http://www.amarcexperience.com/AMARC...l.asp Some of my H-3s are there too, trust me!!! (as are all of my A-6s, too!)
27 Windy95 : If they are going to name a carrier after any McCain it should be the current senator's grandfather Adm John Sidney "Slew" McCain. McCain was a pione
28 KiwiRob : The problem is that McCain wasn't a politician.
29 AirRyan : Wow, it's so obvious that Gerry Ford was the logical choice for the entire new class of next generation aircraft carriers. We the People have to take
30 Tugger : Pearl is too expensive to operate out of and everything to support the ship must be brought in.... by ship (OK, there's the squadrons and I'm somethi
31 LMP737 : Add to that where would you put the squadrons and the families? Kaneohe is packed in preety good and Barbers Point is no longer an NAS. I'm not sure
32 FRAspotter : I remember hearing and reading awhile ago that CVN-78 America (back when it was still to be called the America) was to have parts of the World Trade
33 Post contains links ZANL188 : You might be thinking of LPD-21 USS New York. http://www.ussnewyork.com/
34 STT757 : Well if not Barbers point then Hickam, Kaneohe Bay's runway is closed for repaving and the P-3 Squadrons are operating from Hickam.
35 LMP737 : You would still have to find a place to build the hangars, support facilities, barraks etc. That's going to cost a lot of money to build those facili
36 STT757 : Pearl Harbor Naval Shipyard already supports a large fleet of Nuclear Subs, I'm sure with some upgrades they could easily support a home port for a C
37 LMP737 : You still would have to spend a lot of money to build the neccessary infrastructure. The Navy is talking about spending close to $500 million to upgr
38 STT757 : How cost effective would it be to establish housing areas with shoppettes and other smaller MWR etc facilities on other islands such as the Big Islan
39 LMP737 : It would probably be very expensive along with not being very pratical to running a carrier and the squadrons.
40 Garnetpalmetto : Wasp is in use, albeit not as a CV - The present USS Wasp (LHD-1) was the lead ship of her class of amphibious assault ships that also has ships name
41 FRAspotter : I think you're right. My mistake...
42 Post contains links LMP737 : Correction, 1965 was the year the most carriers were operating post WWII. http://www.history.navy.mil/branches/org9-4.htm#1965
43 Gsosbee : Also Enterprise once CVN-65 is retired.
44 Confuscius : The USS George H. W . Bush, as not to be confused with the other guy?
45 BMI727 : Actually there is, kinda. Carriers are generally named after particularly distinguished people, Presidents etc., and things like that. Cruisers are n
46 ANZUS340 : There is no glory in most of these names. Carriers should be named after military heroes or famous battles as in the old days. The Ford, the Reagan-co
47 Par13del : My question would be why was Pearl Harbour removed as a carrier home port and when was it done, it could not have been a popular decision within the
48 Dragon6172 : The Kitty Hawk was the last conventionally powered carrier stationed in Japan.
49 NA : Agreed If true, the fleet will rise again to 13 or 14 carriers before the Nimitz is due for retirement in 2025. That other guy will never ever have a
50 JakeOrion : Don't worry, Vinson is coming here early next year. You can see the construction being done on Berths L, M, O, and P. So, basically, San Diego is goi
51 UH60FtRucker : Basing out of Japan can save up to 17 steaming days from the continental US, and up to about 12 steaming days from Pearl. It's a smart move.[Edited 2
52 ZANL188 : Also gives North Korea reason to reconsider its options....
53 STT757 : Has there ever been consideration of forward deploying a carrier to Western Australia?.. Plenty of land, friendly host nation, and great location for
54 L-188 : That would make what? Enterprise-D? With the use of landing platforms such as the Tarawa and Wasp as defacto carriers for Harriers I have to wonder i
55 Rwessel : The idea comes up regularly, but for conventional (non-STOVL) aircraft, you give up huge amounts of capability if you shrink too much below the size
56 STT757 : If they could develop and AWACS, Air Refueling and ASW versions of the V-22 for a lighter "escort" type carriers that would be a nice compliment to th
57 Rwessel : I think the V-22 makes the most plausible potential AEW platform on the horizon for a light carrier. OTOH, I don't really see the V-22 in an ASW role
58 Zkpilot : an excellent idea. Fremantle (near Perth) would be the obvious choice (they stop off there now as it is). However for security reasons I'm guessing G
59 Oroka : Make a trade, a 50 year lease on Garden Island in exchange to beable to buy the F-22 at USAF prices.
60 Post contains links Allegro : aww ... sniff, sniff ... I hope they name one of the new ones the Enterprise! Would just be bad form not to. Long live the Big E! Glad Bush 41 gettin
61 Gocaps16 : Fremantle cannot support a U.S. Carrier right now, but in 10 years, that's a different story. It would be nice to be stationed in Oz, but everytime w
62 LMP737 : Can you imagine the cost of trying to station a CVN at Pearl? First there's the cost of updating the facilities to support it. Then there's the cost
63 JohnJ : Which air wing is the Bush getting? Based on some Google work I just did, it appears CVW-17 "AA" tail code is currently unassigned; is that going to t
64 LMP737 : That would make sense. CVW-17 previous carrier the George Washington is now in Japan.
65 Gocaps16 : I can imagine. Even when the Stennis pulled in 2004 during my deployment, it was already crowded enough, along with 10+ other ships from countries al
66 Par13del : So how much is Japan and the US spending or spent to upgrade the facilities to take a nuke over the fossil fuel carrier? The benefit of Pearl would h
67 LMP737 : I'm going to say that it cost quite a bit. However the non-nuclear portion the support facilities already exist in Japan. As do the support facilitie
68 L-188 : I could see a Hospital ship named after Billy, it would have nurses on board after all. GW is Air Force....name a plane after him.
69 Johns624 : They already use them in Alaska. They're called "Bush planes".
70 Flighty : Well as said by Secretary Gates, the thing that will usher in some new Carrier priorities is the fact that China is busily creating a Pacific carrier
71 DeltaGuy : Keeping the US the champions of the carrier Navy is key...we've been this way for nearly a century, it's no time to let it slide. NS Mayport needs to
72 Max Q : A Carrier named after Bill Clinton would be highly appropriate and I would like to see it. He did give us 8 years of peace and prosperity, the best ec
73 Starrion : I recall a suggestion that large container ships could be used in an escort carrier role by equipping them with pre-manufactured mission containers to
74 ThePointblank : There was a program in the late 1970's, early 1980's called ARAPAHO. It was a research and demonstration study to determine the feasibility of equipp
75 NA : And unlike his predecessor and his successor he increased his country´s image abroad, too. I hope the next after the Ford will be named USS Clinton.
76 DeltaL1011man : And what a great asset to the Navy he was............Oh wait he wasn't in the Navy(or the military......and some say he cheated his way out of the Dr
77 NA : DeltaL1011man, I strongly disagree. Shouldnt the reason for naming a capital ship not be what the particular namesake did for his country, not just if
78 ZANL188 : Not much point when a radar sat can bounce a signal off that big flat, non-stealthy deck.... The escorts can handle radar guided weapons...
79 LMP737 : If FDR and Admiral Mitscher don't warrant an aircraft carrier named after them then bill Clinton does not either.
80 Bramble : Now theres a show I want tickets for..............
81 FlyingSicilian : peace? He put the United States into two wars and al qaeda attacked the USA at least 5 times during his term...
82 Post contains links and images L-188 : Actually the 2nd of the three Midway class carriers was named after FDR. Mitscher rated a guided missile destroyers back in the 1950's, but they wher
83 DeltaL1011man : see this is where i disagree. I don't believe they should name boats after people not in the military when there are still so many people (General Ma
84 LMP737 : Yes I know, it hit the breakers years ago. I'm talking about the here and now. There's an Arliegh Burke destroyer named after him now.
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Bush Rejected Israeli Plan To Strike Iran... posted Thu Sep 25 2008 20:37:09 by AirRyan
CVW-5 Departs USS Kitty Hawk For Last Time posted Fri Aug 15 2008 21:07:06 by Flynavy
Smoking Blamed For Fire Aboard USS GW posted Thu Jul 31 2008 09:29:45 by Jetjack74
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Bush Rejected Israeli Plan To Strike Iran... posted Thu Sep 25 2008 20:37:09 by AirRyan
CVW-5 Departs USS Kitty Hawk For Last Time posted Fri Aug 15 2008 21:07:06 by Flynavy
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