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Training Helicopter Crash At Fort Rucker  
User currently offlineArmy15P From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 27 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 11346 times:

http://www.whnt.com/news/sns-ap-al--helicoptercrash,0,2175519.story

Pretty breaking news down here right now. Thankfully it appears the student is hospitalized with non-life threatning injuries. Unfortunatly the crash claimed the life of the Instructor Pilot. More then likely, the student owes his life to the actions that the IP took prior to the crash. May he rest in Peace.

[Edited 2009-06-22 18:03:59]

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User currently offlineTrigged From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 11163 times:

RIP. Just down the road from me. I wonder if there is any more info available about the cause.

User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12135 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 11016 times:

Initial training can be hazardous. I understand the helio was a TH-67. RIP, my friend, and heal quickly for the student..

It will be 10 months to 1 year before the full causes will be known for this accident.


User currently offlineAirRyan From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2532 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 10855 times:

From what I understand training in a TH-76 with two full sized pilots is akin to training in a C-152 with two full sized pilots - when your fuel tanks are full you're technically overweight! Throw in a near 100°F temperatures and well, hat's off to all in military aviation each and every day regardless if it's in training or 8,000 miles around world in harms way.

User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12135 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 10788 times:



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):
I understand the helio was a TH-67.



Quoting AirRyan (Reply 3):
in a TH-76

Oops, me bad.  banghead 


User currently offlineArmy15P From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 10787 times:

Well I pretty much flushed everything I learned about the Creek, the moment I had my last checkride in it to make room for Black Hawk knowledge. But your not that far off from the truth with the weight issue. I'd have to check my Op Supp, but I believe max gross was 3350. We mostly fly with only student and intructor, but from Cairns (OZR) to the stagefields and back we fly 2 students and IP. And most of the LSI (lear siegler) guys are old and retired, and well not that concerned with their physical shape. And when we are in the configuration, power management is a constant issue. On hot days I remember tourque being barely outside the yellow, and there may have been a few times as a crappy pilot I was pretty high up there. But in this instance there was only an IP and a single pilot. The rumor mill at Fort Rucker is one of the greatest on this earth with its quanity production, so I don't want to put out much speculation, but from what LSI has briefed, the incident may have occurred after the IP called for coverage to attempt a Simulated Engine Failure at altitude, and never came on the net to report good power. A few pictures have been posted on a local news site ( www.rickystokes.com ) that show the severity of the impact and crash. Unfortunatly I have no further news concerning the surviving crewmember.

[Edited 2009-06-23 15:26:52]

User currently offlineAirRyan From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2532 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 10784 times:



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 4):
Oops, me bad. banghead

No, you were right - my bad on my own dyslexia: TH-67.


User currently offlineKCmike From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 537 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 10720 times:

I flew the TH67 out of Cairns AAF as well for primary flight training. I would doubt the weight issue was a factor. I went through training during the summer months as well, with 3 people on board and a full bag of gas we always did sim. engine failures. Its done everyday. Theres a million possibilities.


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