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USN Aircraft Carrier With Island On The Left?  
User currently offlineMax Q From United States of America, joined May 2001, 4057 posts, RR: 19
Posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 8314 times:

Watching the Military Channel the other night I noticed a WW2 or post war Carrier with the Island on the left (port side) of the ship.


Never seen this before and replayed the scene, sure enough, Island on the left.


Any idea what ship this was, reasons for the placement, etc.. ?


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User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5607 posts, RR: 45
Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 8240 times:
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My understanding is the Japanase Akagi and Hiryū were the only two carriers built with port side islands.

The logic apparently was that they operated in formation with conventional(starboard island) carriers but the practise did not match the theory and they were the only two examples built.

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User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3433 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 8200 times:
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Quoting Max Q (Thread starter):
Watching the Military Channel the other night I noticed a WW2 or post war Carrier with the Island on the left (port side) of the ship

Are you sure the film clip wasn't backwards? Sometimes the editors will do that accidently or if they need to reuse the same clip, makes it look different



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User currently offlineEBJ1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1932 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 8157 times:



Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 2):
Are you sure the film clip wasn't backwards? Sometimes the editors will do that accidently or if they need to reuse the same clip, makes it look different

I had never heard of that practice before, though it certainly makes sense. I have seen photos printed in books that way, and unless you look close you don't realize it ... until you see, for example, the tail code on an F-105 and it looks like it was painted on in mirror fashion.



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User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3433 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 8154 times:
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Quoting EBJ1248650 (Reply 3):
I had never heard of that practice before, though it certainly makes sense.

Usually a trick reserved for the cheaper productions....



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User currently offlinePetertenthije From Netherlands, joined Jul 2001, 3309 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 8106 times:

What are the main advantages of having the island on the right? Is it just a manner of tradition that has grown into a hard to break habit, or is there something more behind it?


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User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 8022 times:



Quoting StealthZ (Reply 1):
My understanding is the Japanase Akagi and Hiryū were the only two carriers built with port side islands.

This is true. Back in thirties the Japanese conducted a study that suggested placing the island on the port side away from the ships exhaust would reduce turbulence aft of the flight deck. It turned out to make it a bit worse.


User currently offlineMax Q From United States of America, joined May 2001, 4057 posts, RR: 19
Reply 7, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 7884 times:



Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 2):

Are you sure the film clip wasn't backwards? Sometimes the editors will do that accidently or if they need to reuse the same clip, makes it look different

You could be right, it certainly surprised me.


So, as far as anyone knows there were no USN Carriers with Island's on the left ?



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User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5327 posts, RR: 53
Reply 8, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 7787 times:



Quoting Max Q (Reply 7):

So, as far as anyone knows there were no USN Carriers with Island's on the left ?

Correct. While Langley (CV-1) did not have an island as she was originally completed, by the time World War II rolled around, she had been converted to a seaplane tender and redesignated AV-3. Similarly, when Ranger (CV-4) was originally designed, she was to be a flush-deck carrier, but an island was added during the construction phase on the starboard side. Similarly the post-War USS United States (CVA-58) was to be flush-decked, but as we all know, United States never made it to commissioning. As StealthZ stated, and to the best of my knowledge, the only two aircraft carriers actually completed with port-side islands were Akagi and Hiryu



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