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Difference Between F-15 & F-14  
User currently offlineGE From Singapore, joined Mar 2000, 320 posts, RR: 6
Posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 18415 times:

Hi guys.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Could someone pls explain (in detail) the differences between the F-14 & F-15? I'm really curious cos' these are my 2 favourite planes and I don't know the advantages/disadvantages between them.
Thanks in advance! Big grin

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User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 18250 times:

-All F-14's have a 2 crew member cockpit
-The F-14 has variable geometry wings
-Different engines (F-15 - F100 by P&W , F-14 - is it the F110 by GE?)
-The F-14 is used by the Navy, The F-15 by the Air Force
-The F-14 was exported to only one country - Iran, The F-15 was exproted to Japan, Israel, and Saudi Arabia
-The F-14 has excellent long range Air-to-Air capabilities, it's not very good at close range combat (lack of power and manouverability)
-The F-15 has good medium and short range air-to-air capabilities, it is better than the F-14 in close combat

Hope it helps
LY744.




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User currently offlineFightingfalcon From Switzerland, joined Feb 2001, 787 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 18235 times:

How much in detail?
First of all is there already a difference between the different version of the Eagle: the F-15A and F-15C are mainly air intercept fighters, the F-15B and F-15D are the two-seater training versions. Then there is the F-15E Strike Eagle, a mainly ground attack fighter with two seats.
The Tomcat has as much I can remember no ground attack capabilities (except the gun...). So this is the difference between the F-14 and the F-15E.
The difference between the Tomcat versions (F-14A/B/C/D) is smaller: there are only advanced avionics and cockpits in the newer versions.
Also a difference: a F-15 never starts from an aircraft carrier...

Ask for further information,
and the others: please correct me if I'm wrong (I wrote this without looking in a book or so, that's just what I know)

Martin




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User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 18210 times:

To Fightingfalcon:

As far as I know, the US Navy equipped some of it's F-14 to use laser guided bombs 3-4 years ago and they were used to destroy targets in Iraq during the Desert Fox campaign.

Everything else looks just fine to me!

LY744.



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User currently offlineFightingfalcon From Switzerland, joined Feb 2001, 787 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 18206 times:

>LY744
You can hang bombs on each aircraft which has got hardpoints for weapons.

To all: Did you know that the F-14D Super Tomcats can't use the afterburner for Carrier take-offs?
Their powerplants are so strong that the exhaust deflector (or similar) would be damaged.

Martin



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User currently offlineGE From Singapore, joined Mar 2000, 320 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 18206 times:

Fightingfalcon & LY744:
Thanks a lot for the information. You've been a great help!
Just a quick question-are any of these 2 fighter jets used for escort?
Thanks again.


User currently offlineFightingfalcon From Switzerland, joined Feb 2001, 787 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 18207 times:

escort of what? VIP-jets?

Martin



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User currently offlineFightingfalcon From Switzerland, joined Feb 2001, 787 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 18190 times:

I leave for 2 hours, I have to watch Switzerland-Russia (Hockey-WC).

Martin



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User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 18169 times:


>LY744
You can hang bombs on each aircraft which has got hardpoints for weapons.


Yes, but to use Laser Guided Bombs you need a laser marker, like the one in the LANTIRN pods.

LY744.



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User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7780 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 18176 times:

Also, the F-14 has EXCELLENT short field capabilities... albeit when hooked up to a steam catapult, or hooking the 3rd wire on the back of a carrier.

The Tomcat's primary mission when designed was fleet defense, hence the long-range Phoenix missiles and radar system to accquire and track up to 6 targets. However in the post-Cold War military the plane is having a hard time. The F/A-18 Hornet and the new F/A-18 E/F Super Hornet is a jack of all trades mutli-role fighter/attack aircraft. They have adapted the Tomcat to do some attack missions, but it is an expensive aircraft to keep up.

The F-15 was designed as the USAF's primary interceptor aircraft, but also does well in close air-to-air stuff, and has adapted very well to the ground attack role.



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User currently offlineGE From Singapore, joined Mar 2000, 320 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 18163 times:

Excellent description, DesertJets!  Big thumbs up
Well, thanks for the info guys.
I really appreciate it.


User currently offlineGE From Singapore, joined Mar 2000, 320 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 18167 times:

Fightingfalcon stated that the F-14s powerplants were very strong. Does that make it one the fastest fighter planes?

P.S Sorry if I'm irritating you guys with all my questions, but I'm really curious.


User currently offlineFightingfalcon From Switzerland, joined Feb 2001, 787 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 18157 times:

>GE, did you ever realize how big a F-14 is? It's much bigger than an F-18, and also much heavier. It needs so strong powerplants. Sure it's also fast, but not actualy really fast, just the normal speed for a fighter.

Martin



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User currently offlineFightingfalcon From Switzerland, joined Feb 2001, 787 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 18154 times:

Here's a picture:

Do you recognize the aircraft in the background?
That's a Finnish SAAB Draken.

Martin



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User currently offlineGE From Singapore, joined Mar 2000, 320 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 18136 times:

Fightingfalcon: Hey, thanks a lot!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy You really cleared up all my doubts. You're a great help!

User currently offlineGunfighter 6 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2001, 404 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 18132 times:

FightingFalcon: quote 'Sure it's also fast, but not actualy really fast'

I am sorry but where did you get this info?

The F14 is an interceptor designed for fast flying.
the cruising speed of a F14 is much faster then the average jet like the F16.

The AIM54 is not as accurate as some say it is.
the F14 needs to be at a medium range to the targets, because of that it needs to fly real fast. its wat it was designed to do. intercepting Badger Bombers.

>The Tomcat has as much I can remember no ground attack capabilities

LY744 is right. I believe the squadron that uses precision guided weapons is stationed at NAS Oceana.
this is a fully equiped ground attack Sqn that uses the Super Tomcat.
the statement that you can hang any bomb under an aircraft that has hairpoints is just bullshit.
try hanging a GBU24 under a spitfire.





User currently offlineFightingfalcon From Switzerland, joined Feb 2001, 787 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 18124 times:

Hey, a F-14 isn't REALLY fast, like a MiG-27 or so. It IS fast, OK. But it is also big.
And about the bombs: I think with almost every (new era, not Spitfire) aircraft were tested different bombs. The normal F-14's on the USN aircraft carriers have no bombs under their wings.

Martin



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User currently offlineGunfighter 6 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2001, 404 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 18113 times:

WHAT !!!! You are really lost aren't you.
The Mig 27 faster then the F14, you surely do not know what you are talking about.

The Max speed of a F14 is: 1544mph MACH 2.38
The Max speed of a Mig 27: 1170mph

Further more you cannot even compare the two aircraft with eachother. the mig is the counter aircraft for the F15. the Mig 23 however is the counter aircraft for the F14.

and the bomb question.
This is a article from Janes. please read it.

'The US Navy (USN) is further refining the air-to-surface capability of its Grumman F-14B/D Tomcat fighters. Northrop Grumman's Integrated Systems and Aerostructures business has been awarded a US$6.5 million contract to produce 116 GBU-24 integration kits for F-14B/Ds. This investment follows the success of the Tomcats during the December 1998 attacks on Iraq'

Your Quote: "The normal F-14's on the USN aircraft carriers have no bombs under their wings".

well you can decide what you think of that sentence.



User currently offlineFightingfalcon From Switzerland, joined Feb 2001, 787 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 18102 times:

oops.....I wanted to say MiG-23.
I didn't know that there WILL be bomb kits.

Let's stop this fight, it comes to no end this way, F-14 is fast and has sometimes bombs attached, OK?

Martin



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User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 19, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 18094 times:

Gunfighter...

Maximum speeds arent worth a damn thing at all...you will never see any fighter aircraft reach those speeds except in cases of EXTREME emergency or in testing because its a true fuel burner...the lone exceptions to this are the F-22 and JSF aircraft, which have supercruise ability...

Greg



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User currently offlineAFC_ajax00 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 775 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 18101 times:

Just to clear up what you said, the MiG-27 is a ground attack fighter, and the MiG-23, from which the MiG-27 is derived from is in no way comparable to either the F-15 or F-14 but more to a SAAB Viggen or similar 70's fighter


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User currently offlineQantasA330 From Iraq, joined Dec 2000, 306 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 18088 times:

The main difference is:
F-14 - - - Is a LONG RANGE INTERCEPTOR.
It has AIM-54 Phoenix missiles which allow it to attack targets up to 150 nauticle miles away.

The F-15 was designed to be an all together great "dog-fighter"... while the F-14 was designed to destroy targets before they get into visual range.

:::330:::


User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8507 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 18085 times:

Actually, I remember reading somewhere that some F-14D drivers once (back when the -D was brand new) invited a pair of F-15Cs to play, and the F-15s left with their tails between the legs.

With the swing wings and the powerful (GE) engines, the F-14D is a good dogfighter for it's size. Especially if it's crew has been to Top Gun.

It'd take a Su-27 with a well trained pilot to give an F-14D trouble. Too bad the Pratt powered F-14s weren't what they could've been.


User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8507 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 18114 times:

And I would think that the F-15 would be a better short/rough field plane than the F-15 because it has a slower approach speed and much tougher landing gear.

User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 18066 times:

As far as I know the F-15 is a much better dogfighter than the F-14, the F-14's engines (at least in the early versions) did not provide sufficient power. Also, the F-14's primary role was to be a launch platform for long-range A-A missiles. I think the F-14 is no match in a dogfight to the SU-27, MiG-29, F-16.

LY744.



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