GE From Singapore, joined Mar 2000, 320 posts, RR: 7 Posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 12696 times:
Hi guys.
Could someone pls explain (in detail) the differences between the F-14 & F-15? I'm really curious cos' these are my 2 favourite planes and I don't know the advantages/disadvantages between them.
Thanks in advance!
LY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 11 Reply 1, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 12531 times:
-All F-14's have a 2 crew member cockpit
-The F-14 has variable geometry wings
-Different engines (F-15 - F100 by P&W , F-14 - is it the F110 by GE?)
-The F-14 is used by the Navy, The F-15 by the Air Force
-The F-14 was exported to only one country - Iran, The F-15 was exproted to Japan, Israel, and Saudi Arabia
-The F-14 has excellent long range Air-to-Air capabilities, it's not very good at close range combat (lack of power and manouverability)
-The F-15 has good medium and short range air-to-air capabilities, it is better than the F-14 in close combat
Fightingfalcon From Switzerland, joined Feb 2001, 787 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 12516 times:
How much in detail?
First of all is there already a difference between the different version of the Eagle: the F-15A and F-15C are mainly air intercept fighters, the F-15B and F-15D are the two-seater training versions. Then there is the F-15E Strike Eagle, a mainly ground attack fighter with two seats.
The Tomcat has as much I can remember no ground attack capabilities (except the gun...). So this is the difference between the F-14 and the F-15E.
The difference between the Tomcat versions (F-14A/B/C/D) is smaller: there are only advanced avionics and cockpits in the newer versions.
Also a difference: a F-15 never starts from an aircraft carrier...
Ask for further information,
and the others: please correct me if I'm wrong (I wrote this without looking in a book or so, that's just what I know)
LY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 11 Reply 3, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 12491 times:
To Fightingfalcon:
As far as I know, the US Navy equipped some of it's F-14 to use laser guided bombs 3-4 years ago and they were used to destroy targets in Iraq during the Desert Fox campaign.
Fightingfalcon From Switzerland, joined Feb 2001, 787 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 12487 times:
>LY744
You can hang bombs on each aircraft which has got hardpoints for weapons.
To all: Did you know that the F-14D Super Tomcats can't use the afterburner for Carrier take-offs?
Their powerplants are so strong that the exhaust deflector (or similar) would be damaged.
GE From Singapore, joined Mar 2000, 320 posts, RR: 7 Reply 5, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 12487 times:
Fightingfalcon & LY744:
Thanks a lot for the information. You've been a great help!
Just a quick question-are any of these 2 fighter jets used for escort?
Thanks again.
DesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7680 posts, RR: 18 Reply 9, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 12457 times:
Also, the F-14 has EXCELLENT short field capabilities... albeit when hooked up to a steam catapult, or hooking the 3rd wire on the back of a carrier.
The Tomcat's primary mission when designed was fleet defense, hence the long-range Phoenix missiles and radar system to accquire and track up to 6 targets. However in the post-Cold War military the plane is having a hard time. The F/A-18 Hornet and the new F/A-18 E/F Super Hornet is a jack of all trades mutli-role fighter/attack aircraft. They have adapted the Tomcat to do some attack missions, but it is an expensive aircraft to keep up.
The F-15 was designed as the USAF's primary interceptor aircraft, but also does well in close air-to-air stuff, and has adapted very well to the ground attack role.
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Fightingfalcon From Switzerland, joined Feb 2001, 787 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 12438 times:
>GE, did you ever realize how big a F-14 is? It's much bigger than an F-18, and also much heavier. It needs so strong powerplants. Sure it's also fast, but not actualy really fast, just the normal speed for a fighter.
Fightingfalcon From Switzerland, joined Feb 2001, 787 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 12435 times:
Here's a picture:
Do you recognize the aircraft in the background?
That's a Finnish SAAB Draken.
Gunfighter 6 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2001, 404 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 12413 times:
FightingFalcon: quote 'Sure it's also fast, but not actualy really fast'
I am sorry but where did you get this info?
The F14 is an interceptor designed for fast flying.
the cruising speed of a F14 is much faster then the average jet like the F16.
The AIM54 is not as accurate as some say it is.
the F14 needs to be at a medium range to the targets, because of that it needs to fly real fast. its wat it was designed to do. intercepting Badger Bombers.
>The Tomcat has as much I can remember no ground attack capabilities
LY744 is right. I believe the squadron that uses precision guided weapons is stationed at NAS Oceana.
this is a fully equiped ground attack Sqn that uses the Super Tomcat.
the statement that you can hang any bomb under an aircraft that has hairpoints is just bullshit.
try hanging a GBU24 under a spitfire.
Fightingfalcon From Switzerland, joined Feb 2001, 787 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 12405 times:
Hey, a F-14 isn't REALLY fast, like a MiG-27 or so. It IS fast, OK. But it is also big.
And about the bombs: I think with almost every (new era, not Spitfire) aircraft were tested different bombs. The normal F-14's on the USN aircraft carriers have no bombs under their wings.
Gunfighter 6 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2001, 404 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 12394 times:
WHAT !!!! You are really lost aren't you.
The Mig 27 faster then the F14, you surely do not know what you are talking about.
The Max speed of a F14 is: 1544mph MACH 2.38
The Max speed of a Mig 27: 1170mph
Further more you cannot even compare the two aircraft with eachother. the mig is the counter aircraft for the F15. the Mig 23 however is the counter aircraft for the F14.
and the bomb question.
This is a article from Janes. please read it.
'The US Navy (USN) is further refining the air-to-surface capability of its Grumman F-14B/D Tomcat fighters. Northrop Grumman's Integrated Systems and Aerostructures business has been awarded a US$6.5 million contract to produce 116 GBU-24 integration kits for F-14B/Ds. This investment follows the success of the Tomcats during the December 1998 attacks on Iraq'
Your Quote: "The normal F-14's on the USN aircraft carriers have no bombs under their wings".
well you can decide what you think of that sentence.
USAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 54 Reply 19, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 12375 times:
Gunfighter...
Maximum speeds arent worth a damn thing at all...you will never see any fighter aircraft reach those speeds except in cases of EXTREME emergency or in testing because its a true fuel burner...the lone exceptions to this are the F-22 and JSF aircraft, which have supercruise ability...
Greg
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AFC_ajax00 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 775 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 12382 times:
Just to clear up what you said, the MiG-27 is a ground attack fighter, and the MiG-23, from which the MiG-27 is derived from is in no way comparable to either the F-15 or F-14 but more to a SAAB Viggen or similar 70's fighter
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QantasA330 From Iraq, joined Dec 2000, 306 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 12369 times:
The main difference is:
F-14 - - - Is a LONG RANGE INTERCEPTOR.
It has AIM-54 Phoenix missiles which allow it to attack targets up to 150 nauticle miles away.
The F-15 was designed to be an all together great "dog-fighter"... while the F-14 was designed to destroy targets before they get into visual range.
MD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8422 posts, RR: 13 Reply 22, posted (12 years 1 month 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 12366 times:
Actually, I remember reading somewhere that some F-14D drivers once (back when the -D was brand new) invited a pair of F-15Cs to play, and the F-15s left with their tails between the legs.
With the swing wings and the powerful (GE) engines, the F-14D is a good dogfighter for it's size. Especially if it's crew has been to Top Gun.
It'd take a Su-27 with a well trained pilot to give an F-14D trouble. Too bad the Pratt powered F-14s weren't what they could've been.
MD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8422 posts, RR: 13 Reply 23, posted (12 years 1 month 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 12395 times:
And I would think that the F-15 would be a better short/rough field plane than the F-15 because it has a slower approach speed and much tougher landing gear.
LY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 11 Reply 24, posted (12 years 1 month 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 12347 times:
As far as I know the F-15 is a much better dogfighter than the F-14, the F-14's engines (at least in the early versions) did not provide sufficient power. Also, the F-14's primary role was to be a launch platform for long-range A-A missiles. I think the F-14 is no match in a dogfight to the SU-27, MiG-29, F-16.
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