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User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12394 posts, RR: 46
Posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 6236 times:
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I need some help identifying the sub-types of these "stored" MiGs.

MiG-23:

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MiG-23


MiG-29:
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Mig-29


Many thanks!


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User currently offlineSovietjet From Bulgaria, joined Mar 2003, 2578 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 6199 times:
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The first one is a Mig-23ML. The second one is a standard Mig-29.

User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12128 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 6189 times:



Quoting Scbriml (Thread starter):
I need some help identifying the sub-types of these "stored" MiGs.

I would say more like abandoned than stored.

Quoting Sovietjet (Reply 1):
The first one is a Mig-23ML. The second one is a standard Mig-29.

Correct. Apparently the tow tractor left its spare tire in from of the Mig-29.


User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12394 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 6015 times:
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Quoting Sovietjet (Reply 1):
The first one is a Mig-23ML. The second one is a standard Mig-29.

Thanks!  thumbsup 

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):
I would say more like abandoned than stored.

Hence my use of " ".  wink 

This was an interesting little collection of planes in the middle of nowhere, or Dolgoe Ledovo as the Russians call it.
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Collection of MiGs!



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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12128 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5883 times:



Quoting Scbriml (Reply 3):
This was an interesting little collection of planes in the middle of nowhere, or Dolgoe Ledovo as the Russians call it.

By my count,right to left, there are 7 Mig-21s, 1 Mi-24. 3 Mig-29s, not sure what these two are but they only have one engine, and the last one is possibly a Mig-23 with one wing. Or maybe I only see one wing because the picture quality is low.

It does not appear to have the two airplanes pictured in your first post here, all of the Mig-29s have their radomes attached, and the airplane to the left of the Mig-23 is camo. In you pic of the Mig-23ML, the airplane next to it is grey and appears to be the tail of another Mig-23.


User currently offlineSovietjet From Bulgaria, joined Mar 2003, 2578 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5867 times:
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The three planes to the left are all Mig-23s. Two have the wings swept forward. The Mig-29s may or may not have the radome attached. It could be an older photo and the 29 lost the radome recently. It could be the way the shadows are that the shadow look like a radome but it's not.

User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12128 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5849 times:



Quoting Sovietjet (Reply 5):
The three planes to the left are all Mig-23s. Two have the wings swept forward.

Thanks, that is what I thought they could be, but I was not 100% sure.


User currently offlineSpacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2901 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5841 times:

If you look at the paint scemes and use the silver MiG-23 as a reference, the -29 in the photo should be middle one(can see one more -29 and the silver -23 behind it), and the camo -23 is the middle of the three, or leftmost with the wings forward.


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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12128 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5832 times:

Do we know if the left most Mig-23, the one with the wings fully swept is actually missing the right wing, or is it just a bad picture (or my eyes)?

User currently offlineJackonicko From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 472 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5807 times:

It's your eyes!

The air to ground picture shows:

MiG-21PFM?, Bort ‘69’
MiG-21PFS, Bort outline ‘101’ pointing opposite direction
MiG-21PFS, Bort outline ‘57’ radar removed
MiG-21PFS, Bort outline ‘53’ radar removed
MiG-21MT, Bort outline ‘14’
MiG-21MT, Bort green ‘11’
MiG-21MT, Bort green ‘15’
Mi-24A, Bort ‘Hind-A’ yellow ‘10’
MiG-29, Bort white ‘46’ (‘Fulcrum-C’)
MiG-29, Bort ‘60’ (‘Fulcrum-C’)
MiG-29, Bort blue ‘21’ (early ‘Fulcrum-A’)
MiG-23M, Bort green ‘01’ ('Flogger-B')
MiG-23ML, Bort blue ‘20’ ('Flogger-G')
MiG-23MLD, Bort ‘261’ ('Flogger-K')

They were GI airframes at a technical school.


User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12394 posts, RR: 46
Reply 10, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5805 times:
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Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 4):
It does not appear to have the two airplanes pictured in your first post here

I took those photos just last week, but I have no idea how old the Google Earth image is. What I can tell you is, none of the planes there have moved in a long time.

Unfortunately, we were told they were due to be scrapped soon, so they won't be there much longer.

Quoting Spacepope (Reply 7):
the -29 in the photo should be middle one(can see one more -29 and the silver -23 behind it), and the camo -23 is the middle of the three

Yes and yes.

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 8):
Do we know if the left most Mig-23, the one with the wings fully swept is actually missing the right wing, or is it just a bad picture (or my eyes)?

It did in fact have a full complement of wings.

Quoting Jackonicko (Reply 9):

Very good, and tallies with my photos. Where did you get the info?



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User currently offlineJackonicko From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 472 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5733 times:

I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you..........

But if you were to post up a pic of Bort 69...........


User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12394 posts, RR: 46
Reply 12, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5727 times:
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Quoting Jackonicko (Reply 11):
I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you..........

But we're on the same side!

Quoting Jackonicko (Reply 11):
But if you were to post up a pic of Bort 69...........

That might be tough. IIRC, that was one of the two nose-to-tail. I don't think I've got a shot of that one.



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