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Air Force One Circling Kdys On 8-26?  
User currently offlineBooDog From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 257 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 8 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5274 times:

I was much suprised to look up a couple of hours ago and see Air Force One out my front window today. It took off from Dyess, circled, and landed. No VIP's are in town today.

Does anybody know whats up?


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User currently offlineBoeingFixer From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 525 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 23 hours ago) and read 5233 times:

What you likely saw was just a VC-25 on a training or test flight. If the US President is not aboard it is not called Air Force One.


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User currently offlineBooDog From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 257 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 5 hours ago) and read 5065 times:



Quoting BoeingFixer (Reply 1):
If the US President is not aboard it is not called Air Force One.

My fault. I got excited. Seeing a Boeing 747/VC-25 around here is quite unusual.



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User currently offlineVenus6971 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1438 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 4 hours ago) and read 5023 times:

Their hanger at ADW is blocked off by taxiway repair construction and they don't have hanger space to keep her clean so they keep moving to stay out of the weather. Got chased out of TIK last night running from a huge tstorm and hail. Just my 2 cents but she VC-25 has a 195ft wing span, the A330 has 197 ft wing span, the 330 would have the same problem of finding hanger space in the USAF/DOD.


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User currently offlineArmitageShanks From UK - England, joined Dec 2003, 3559 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4899 times:



Quoting Venus6971 (Reply 3):
Their hanger at ADW is blocked off by taxiway repair construction and they don't have hanger space to keep her clean so they keep moving to stay out of the weather

What a ridiculous thing to do. Complete waste of money.


User currently offlineCurlyheadboy From Italy, joined Feb 2005, 940 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4871 times:



Quoting ArmitageShanks (Reply 4):
Quoting Venus6971 (Reply 3):
Their hanger at ADW is blocked off by taxiway repair construction and they don't have hanger space to keep her clean so they keep moving to stay out of the weather

What a ridiculous thing to do. Complete waste of money.

I don't think they have many other options, what else can they do other than moving it?



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User currently offlineRFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7348 posts, RR: 32
Reply 6, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4849 times:

Are you sure it was a VC-25 and not an E-4B ?

User currently offlineHaveBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2090 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4821 times:



Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 6):
Are you sure it was a VC-25 and not an E-4B ?

That's what I wondered when this thread first popped up, but I don't know the poster who started this thread and didn't want to insult him lol.



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User currently offlineVenus6971 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1438 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4819 times:



Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 6):
Are you sure it was a VC-25 and not an E-4B ?

Pretty sure, its tail # 29000 with a big decal on both sides that says President of the United States. It just got out of D check in Boeing Wichita and they are flying it hard to get all the bugs worked out that you usally have after a heavy D check. Tinker is a heavy mx base that can provide alot of support and not pay out through the nose if they kept it at Boeing.



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User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3434 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4755 times:
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Quoting Venus6971 (Reply 8):
a big decal on both sides that says President of the United States

I hope it says "United States of America" like it's supposed too...



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User currently offlineRFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7348 posts, RR: 32
Reply 10, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4749 times:



Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 9):
I hope it says "United States of America" like it's supposed too...

Both aircraft types have the same name on the side, but the VC-25 has a round decal on the front below the blue line of the Presidential Seal.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA--...d=2d2d79eaf149e0f0dfbba72abca5b254

The VC-25 has a swoosh of blue over the cockpit and part of the upper deck, and on the front of the vertical stabilizer. The E-4B only has a blue cheat line along the windows and a bit of light blue over the front of the cockpit under and over the windows - both have the air to air refueling points under the cockpit windows.

Many people confuse the E-4B with the VC-25 though they are pretty different when you look at side by side photos.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA--...d=2d2d79eaf149e0f0dfbba72abca5b254

http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA--...d=823c4fe809f004dc0568a7ade957b0fd

But if in doubt - the tail #2900 is a VC-25.

Not doubting the OP, but it's happened before on this forum, even from members of the US military.


User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3434 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4744 times:
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Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 10):
but the VC-25 has a round decal on the front below the blue line of the Presidential Seal.

Nit: That one says "Seal of the President...."

No confusion here, I worked both types (E-4 & VC-25) during my tour at ADW....



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User currently offlineBoacvc10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 587 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4739 times:



Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 10):
but the VC-25 has a round decal on the front below the blue line of the Presidential Seal.

What about the shark fin electronics pod on the top of the fuselage on the VC-25 ?



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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4733 times:

Quoting Boacvc10 (Reply 12):
What about the shark fin electronics pod on the top of the fuselage on the VC-25 ?

The VC-25 has no such fin..... the E4-B does.......


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VC-25
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[Edited 2009-08-28 18:56:20]


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