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User currently offlineEBJ1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1932 posts, RR: 1
Posted (5 years 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3536 times:

From what I can gather, looking at the photos here at a.net, the Saudi Air Force has taken delivery of 4 single seat Eurofighter Typhoons. I understand they're getting 72 Typhoons, but are they getting some two-seaters among them?


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User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13206 posts, RR: 77
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3345 times:

12 of them twin seaters according to this;

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...irst-flight-for-saudi-typhoon.html


User currently offlineEBJ1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1932 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3182 times:

I'm surprised they didn't get at least two of the two-seaters first. Presumably they'll use their two-seaters to train pilots who follow the first group who trained in Europe.


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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12146 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3175 times:



Quoting EBJ1248650 (Reply 2):
Presumably they'll use their two-seaters to train pilots who follow the first group who trained in Europe.

Isn't the initial cardray of RSAF pilots being trained by the RAF?


User currently offlineMax Q From United States of America, joined May 2001, 4515 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3023 times:



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 3):

Isn't the initial cardray of RSAF pilots being trained by the RAF?

No condescension meant here but the word is 'Cadre'



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User currently offlineEBJ1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1932 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2949 times:



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 3):
Quoting EBJ1248650 (Reply 2):
Presumably they'll use their two-seaters to train pilots who follow the first group who trained in Europe.

Isn't the initial cardray of RSAF pilots being trained by the RAF?

That was what I was implying when I mentioned the first group who trained in Europe. I presume the RAF is training the first group so that the airplanes can go operational as soon as possible. I further assume the Saudi AF will form a transition training unit utilizing their own two-seaters in the not too distant future. I'm just surprised the two-seaters haven't started being delivered yet.



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User currently offlineJackonicko From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 472 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2937 times:

The Saudis are VERY keen for their people to undergo the full RAF Typhoon training and to follow RAF operating procedures and CONOPS.

This is especially true for the first unit, which will be the RSAF's equivalent to No.17 Squadron, with an OEU function.

Putting their people through 29 (R) is not a 'second best' option for the RSAF, and though they have an aspiration to get an autonomous training capability, for the time being, following a more 'Austrian' model is fine, and it will allow a more rapid build up of the first squadron.


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12146 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2842 times:



Quoting EBJ1248650 (Reply 5):
I presume the RAF is training the first group so that the airplanes can go operational as soon as possible. I further assume the Saudi AF will form a transition training unit utilizing their own two-seaters in the not too distant future. I'm just surprised the two-seaters haven't started being delivered yet.

Then taking the 4 single seat Typhoons first makes sense. IIRC, that is what the RSAF did with their F-15s. They took delivery of some F-15Cs while getting training from the USAF, and later got their two seat F-15Ds.

Quoting Jackonicko (Reply 6):
Putting their people through 29 (R) is not a 'second best' option for the RSAF, and though they have an aspiration to get an autonomous training capability, for the time being, following a more 'Austrian' model is fine, and it will allow a more rapid build up of the first squadron.

Correct.


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