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User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10733 posts, RR: 9
Posted (5 years 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 14554 times:

Status: with the "Kitty Hawk" decommissioned earlier this year the US Navy is down to 11 mainline carriers, 10 "Nimitz"-class plus the "Enterprise" which is scheduled to retire in about 3 years time. The first new-constructed "Gerald Ford"-class (same size as the "Nimitz") carrier is scheduled to be commissioned in 2015.

Some questions:
1. Do all Nimitz-class carry the same size of crew/flightcrew (which of cause is naturally slightly varying all the time) or are there significant differences?
2. Do all Nimitz-carriers carry the same number of aircraft when deployed or is that subject to the mission?
3. Is there a particular carrier and a particular aircraft type which is particularly liked/disliked in the Navy?
4. Is there a particular ship which is seen as THE flagship of the US Navy?
5. Why are some carriers´ homepages offline (like the Washington and the Truman) since some time?

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User currently offlineJakeOrion From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1253 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 14470 times:

1) All Nimitz class carriers are the same in terms of crew compliment. The ships compliment is 3,200 and its air wing is 2,480.

2) Most of them typically carry 64 aircraft (48 tactical and 16 support) but the ships are capable up to 90. Typically, each ship carries 8 squadrons, but some ships carry 7 or 9 squadrons of aircraft.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ited_States_Navy_Carrier_air_wings

3) I know that the F/A-18 Hornet and Super Hornets are relatively maintenance friendly, and are generally well liked by their crews. If anything, it would probably be the EB-6B Prowler because its starting to get very difficult to find parts.

4) Generally, the newest ship in active service is considered the "flagship" of the fleet, but Enterprise can be considered the flagship as it was the first nuke, or Nimitz as it was the first of a nuke class.

5) Ehhh???

http://gw.ffc.navy.mil/
http://www.truman.navy.mil/



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User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10733 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 14426 times:

Thanks a lot, JakeOrion.
I didnt know that the standard flight wing is considerably smaller than the maximum.

As for 5), the link to the Truman website still doesnt work.
The general navy site does of cause.


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12146 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 14369 times:

All of the Nimitz class CVNs have flag officer facilities, and when they are the flag ship they carry an additional 150-200 sailors and Officers as the Adm. Staff.

Many if the Tico class CGs also flag officer facilities, as do all of the San Antonio class LPDs.

The "official" Flag Ship of the USN is the USS Constitution, built in 1797 and still afloat in Boston Harbor. She is the oldest commissioned warship afloat in the world. She carries 54 guns and has a displacement around 2400 tons. She was one of 6 "44" gun frigates of the United States class. Her last "deployment" was a 5 day sailing in Massachusetts Bay, including a "port call" at Marblehead, Massachusetts, on her 200th birthday, in 1997. She reached a maximum speed of 6 knots on this "deployment", called "Sail 200", in which she was the Flag Ship, under the Command of Then CNO ADM Jay L. Johnson. Her "Task Force" included the USS Ramage, DDG-61, a Burke class DDG, and USS Halyburton, FFG-40, a Perry class FFG, and the USN Blue Angles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:USS_Constitution_Sail200d.jpg

BTW, the oldest commissioned warship in the world is the RN HMS Victory, older than Old Ironsides by about 28 years. However Victory has been dry docked for many decades, and was bombed by the Luftwaffe during WWII.


User currently offlineJakeOrion From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1253 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 14360 times:



Quoting JakeOrion (Reply 1):
EB-6B

Supposed to be EA-6B, no idea how I screwed that up.



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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 14337 times:
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While we're talking about Nimitz-class carriers, does anyone have any guesses as to their top speed?

2H4



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User currently offlineUH60FtRucker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 14332 times:



Quoting 2H4 (Reply 5):
While we're talking about Nimitz-class carriers, does anyone have any guesses as to their top speed?

2H4

92.66 (repeating of course) knots.

What? You asked for guesses.


User currently offlineHaveBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2108 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 14286 times:



Quoting 2H4 (Reply 5):
While we're talking about Nimitz-class carriers, does anyone have any guesses as to their top speed?

I have heard over the years that they are among the fastest surfaces ships the Navy has, and also heard that they would "almost keep up with interstate traffic", though admittedly the latter comment was back in the Federally regulated speed days and also a bit hard to swallow.

My guess would be around 40 knots, but that's purely a guess. I have always been very curious as to what the true top speed is though.



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 14245 times:



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 3):
BTW, the oldest commissioned warship in the world is the RN HMS Victory, older than Old Ironsides by about 28 years. However Victory has been dry docked for many decades, and was bombed by the Luftwaffe during WWII

I was under the impression she was preserved in concrete, never to float again.



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User currently offlineStudeDave From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 14222 times:



Quoting 2H4 (Reply 5):
While we're talking about Nimitz-class carriers, does anyone have any guesses as to their top speed?

Now that I'm retired I can tell you how fast they ACTUALLY are. Oops, no I can't!!! Sorry.

Let's just say that they can out-run their 'support' whenever they want...



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (5 years 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 14200 times:



Quoting StudeDave (Reply 9):
Now that I'm retired I can tell you how fast they ACTUALLY are. Oops, no I can't!!! Sorry.

Sure you can.....once!!!



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User currently offlineRwessel From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2351 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 14179 times:
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Quoting HaveBlue (Reply 7):
I have heard over the years that they are among the fastest surfaces ships the Navy has, and also heard that they would "almost keep up with interstate traffic", though admittedly the latter comment was back in the Federally regulated speed days and also a bit hard to swallow.

My guess would be around 40 knots, but that's purely a guess. I have always been very curious as to what the true top speed is though.

They *should* be amongst the fastest ships in the Navy, simply given the length of the hull.

Compared to an 58,000 ton Iowa, with 212,000shp, and a waterline length of about 860ft, a 100,000t Nimitz, with 260,000shp, and a waterline length of about 1040ft, is going to hits its wave drag limit at around a 10% faster speed, but will have rather more wetted area contributing drag, and not really all that much more power, especially given the size difference. The Iowa's managed about 33kts, and I'd estimate the Nimitz's top speed at about 35kts (and I think that's likely generous, since the Iowa's had rather finer hull forms).

Mind you that sprint speed is *not* the be-all and end-all. A Nimitz can run at its top speed for months (well, something will break sooner or later), but an Iowa will run out of gas in a few days. So a Nimitz can out run anything, just by virtue of its "unlimited" fuel supply. Not that it’s a slouch in terms of speed either.

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User currently offlineArniePie From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 1265 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (5 years 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 14163 times:

In regards to its speed, a good point of reference exists.

The old SS United States which had a length of 990ft and a beam of 101ft with a max displacement of +47000tons still holds the westbound transatlantic speed record for at least the last 30 years at 38.3knots or about 70Kmh.

It had 8 boilers producing 242.000Hp.
As an interesting sidenote, it was build at the same yard where a lot of the big carriers where build.




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User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10733 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 14095 times:



Quoting L-188 (Reply 8):


Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 3):
BTW, the oldest commissioned warship in the world is the RN HMS Victory, older than Old Ironsides by about 28 years. However Victory has been dry docked for many decades, and was bombed by the Luftwaffe during WWII

I was under the impression she was preserved in concrete, never to float again.

No, the Victory is standing in a drydock. In wonderful condition, I´ve visited her twice. Absolutely worth a visit.

I hope that the US will preserve the Enterprise and/or the Nimitz once they are due for retirement (and all the nuclear stuff is removed of cause).

Quoting StudeDave (Reply 9):

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 5):
While we're talking about Nimitz-class carriers, does anyone have any guesses as to their top speed?

Now that I'm retired I can tell you how fast they ACTUALLY are. Oops, no I can't!!! Sorry.

Let's just say that they can out-run their 'support' whenever they want...

Reported speed is 35 knots+. Thats what I read on semi-official sites. I guess in reality the CVNs could achieve something between 35 and 40. Who knows if the power output figure given (260000 hp) is correct? Maybe its beyond 300.000?

Quoting ArniePie (Reply 12):
The old SS United States which had a length of 990ft and a beam of 101ft with a max displacement of +47000tons still holds the westbound transatlantic speed record for at least the last 30 years at 38.3knots or about 70Kmh.

Interesting to know is that the SS United States had such a high speed because it was partly a military ship. The US were so impressed by the performance of the Cunard Queens, which could outrun everything afloat (those to ships were quoted by Churchill to have shortened WWII by a year alone!) that the next civilian flagship should be able to perform accordingly.


User currently offlinePnwtraveler From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 2241 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 13958 times:



Quoting ArniePie (Reply 12):
The old SS United States which had a length of 990ft and a beam of 101ft with a max displacement of +47000tons still holds the westbound transatlantic speed record for at least the last 30 years at 38.3knots or about 70Kmh.

It had 8 boilers producing 242.000Hp.
As an interesting sidenote, it was build at the same yard where a lot of the big carriers where build.

And as stated just above the United States was built to navy specs and used some parts that were initially set for the other United States, the aircraft carrier that was cancelled. In return for being built at Newport News and taking advantage of some of those carrier parts, there was an agreement that the ship could be used as a troop transport in time of war. It was built sleek inside with a very art deco style that minimized wood and other flamable materials. It was built to be speedily converted. The speed was both to win back the speed trophy and as well to move troops rapidly.

Sadly the ship is for sale once again and sits languishing in Philadelphia. The plans to turn it into a cruise ship proved to costly. The interior is basically stripped so whoever buys it has to start from scratch. I still say it would be a great addition to Nauticus in Norfolk as convention/hotel facility, just across from the shipyard. But the pockets will have to be very deep.

My understanding was that compliments of sailors differed slightly between the Nimitz carriers themselves. I have been on two different ones a couple of times each, the Karl S. Vinson and the Ike for Easter Sunrise Services when they used to hold them in Norfolk. But perhaps manning differed back then because the Ike was converted to being Coed and the others weren't yet.

The one time we were on the Ike it was when the troops were coming home and on the Friday evening Witney Houston did her big Welcome Back concert in the hangar at the Norfolk NAS. That Sunday morning her Mom, Cissy was one of the special guests singing at the Sunrise Service. Cissy had a broken ankle or foot, and had to be carried by marines up those steep mesh steps used as gangways onto one of the elevators in the lowered position. A couple of the family with her got their high heeled shoes caught in the same mesh steps. There were plenty of eager marines and sailors ready to help them up the stairs.

The service of over a thousand people was held in the foreward of the three hangar bays as it was too cold to hold it up on the flight deck. At the end of the service the klaxon sounded and the fireproof doors opened to bay 2 where the ship's bakery had prepared breakfast of danish and donuts. There were two aircraft on display on the second elevator for pictures. The size of the Nimitz carriers is mind boggling.


User currently offlineSpectre242 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 13913 times:



Quoting L-188 (Reply 8):
I was under the impression she was preserved in concrete, never to float again.



Quoting NA (Reply 13):
No, the Victory is standing in a drydock. In wonderful condition, I´ve visited her twice. Absolutely worth a visit.

I don't know how operable the dry dock doors would still be, but it is a dry dock. You can observe her in Google Maps satellite view (at 50° 48′ 6.52″ N, 1° 6′ 34.5″ W). Mind you, I can't see how she would ever sail again. Wasn't she taken out of the water to help preserve her hull?

Interestingly (and maybe this is where the confusion came from), the museum ship next to Victory, the monitor HMS M33, does appear to be trapped in her dry dock by a newer bit of dock built across the entrance way to it.


User currently offlineOroka From Canada, joined Dec 2006, 913 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 13749 times:

I would expect the Bush would have a smaller crew compliment, as it uses some technology meant for the Ford, making her a bit easier to crew.

User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10733 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (5 years 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 13657 times:



Quoting JakeOrion (Reply 1):
If anything, it would probably be the EB-6B Prowler because its starting to get very difficult to find parts.

Arent those phased out right now for F-18G Growlers? Dont know how far this transition process is. Also: what is replacing the Viking retired last year? Ospreys?

Quoting Oroka (Reply 16):
I would expect the Bush would have a smaller crew compliment, as it uses some technology meant for the Ford, making her a bit easier to crew.

Should be logical. Although the biggst step during the Nimitz class evolution was made from the Truman to the Reagan (which already is very similar to the Bush)


User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (5 years 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 13612 times:



Quoting NA (Reply 17):
Arent those phased out right now for F-18G Growlers? Dont know how far this transition process is.

Yes the EA-6B are being phased out and being replaced by the EA-18G. Each VAQ squadron will have five aircraft. Which as an increase over the four EA-6B operated by fleet VAQ units. From what I have read the last of the USN Prowlers will be retired by 2012. How long the USMC plans on operating the Prowler is anybodies guess.

Quoting NA (Reply 17):
Also: what is replacing the Viking retired last year? Ospreys?

No Ospreys, all the Navy did was add some helicopters to the CAG's.


User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10733 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (5 years 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 13605 times:



Quoting LMP737 (Reply 18):
From what I have read the last of the USN Prowlers will be retired by 2012.

I just read the Nimitz is the first which is receiving the Growler. Right now.

Quoting LMP737 (Reply 18):
No Ospreys

Why not? The Navy did a lot of testing with them.
So whats replacing the Vikings retired just some months ago?
Anything what could replace the aging Grumman C2-A Greyhounds?


User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (5 years 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 13562 times:



Quoting NA (Reply 19):
Why not? The Navy did a lot of testing with them.

Having an ASW version of the Osprey would mean spending money on R&D, operational eval, etc, etc. Money evidently the Navy does not have to spend.

Quoting NA (Reply 19):
So whats replacing the Vikings retired just some months ago?

Nothing, just a couple more Seahawks assigned to the CAG.

Quoting NA (Reply 19):
Anything what could replace the aging Grumman C2-A Greyhounds?

Nothing as of yet. The C-2 fleet is undergoing a SLEP that is supposed to extend the life of the fleet to 2027


User currently offlineStudeDave From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 13453 times:



Quoting LMP737 (Reply 20):
Nothing, just a couple more Seahawks assigned to the CAG.

Funny thing is-- those nice new MH-60S Seahawks they added have little to ZERO ASW capibility...



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User currently offlineThePointblank From Canada, joined Jan 2009, 1716 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 13433 times:



Quoting StudeDave (Reply 21):
Funny thing is-- those nice new MH-60S Seahawks they added have little to ZERO ASW capibility...

Yes, but the MH-60R Seahawk's do have ASW capability... just that the airframe is getting very cramped with all the stuff they've thrown in. A bigger helicopter is needed if systems growth is expected or desired.


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12146 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (5 years 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 13346 times:



Quoting L-188 (Reply 8):
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 3):
BTW, the oldest commissioned warship in the world is the RN HMS Victory, older than Old Ironsides by about 28 years. However Victory has been dry docked for many decades, and was bombed by the Luftwaffe during WWII

I was under the impression she was preserved in concrete, never to float again.

No, that is the Japanese Battleship IJN Mikasa, the flagship of the Russo-Japanese Battle of Tsushima.

Quoting NA (Reply 13):
No, the Victory is standing in a drydock. In wonderful condition, I´ve visited her twice. Absolutely worth a visit.

Correct.

Quoting NA (Reply 13):
I hope that the US will preserve the Enterprise and/or the Nimitz once they are due for retirement (and all the nuclear stuff is removed of cause).

Yeah, we blew it with the last USS Enterprise, CV6, of WWII fame. She was the most decorated USN warship of WWII, earning some 16 Battlestars. She was scrapped in 1960.


User currently offlineStudeDave From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 13321 times:



Quoting ThePointblank (Reply 22):
Yes, but the MH-60R Seahawk's do have ASW capability... just that the airframe is getting very cramped with all the stuff they've thrown in.

I am well aware of that. But those Romeos (ASW-wise) are only replacing the SH-60F. Tthe numbers (on the Carrier) didn't change much. You much remember- the squadrons that get these birds are covering the entire battle group now- not just the Carrier. That means detachments to the smallboys from the Carrier instead of how it's been done in the past with HSL squadrons-- for the most part.

I think the biggest problem with the 'R' is that it is replacing both the 'F' and the 'B'. It got equipment from both Worlds of USN helo ASW so to speak- and that meant alot of systems had to be installed~ or able to be in short order~ dipping sonar, MAD, and sonobuoy launchers to name a few...

Not to mention all the new, latest and greatest toys they 'just had to have'!!!



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25 LMP737 : Well I guess you could argue that it frees up SH-60/MH60R for ASW duties. Kind of weak I know. What really would have been nice is a S-3C version of
26 Bramble : I remember hearing that the Enterprise outran its escorts in its initial trials. I assume the Nimitz top speed is similarly fast and problably secret
27 Oroka : And the consolation prize was having the first CVN named 'Enterprise'. Securing a nuclear vessel for use as a museum would be prohibitively expensive
28 NA : The US have a lot of warships as museums. All Iowa-class battleships from WWII are still there. But if there is just ONE carrier to preserve, it shoul
29 LMP737 : There's a group in North Carolina trying to get the Kitty Hawk as a museum in Willmington, NC. She would be berthed next to the USS North Carolina. T
30 StudeDave : Frees them up? That's what they're out there for!!! It did, and it is-- sorry. Correct. In 1991 a bunch of my AirWing (CVW-13) went to another to joi
31 Nomadd22 : My ship was on turbines going 30 knots alongside Enterprise once. She passed us like we were going backwards. I wouldn't take that official speed too
32 KC135TopBoom : No, making a nuke ship into a museum should not be difficult. The USS Nautiulus, the first SSN is a museum ship in London, CT. Most US musuem warship
33 NA : That sounds like a 10 knot difference or even more. And lets not forget the nuclear powerplants of the Nimitz are more effective than the Enterprise
34 11Bravo : Impressive indeed; arguably a USN carrier (w/ air-group) is the most powerful non-nuclear weapon in history.
35 Post contains images Goldenshield : And where would they berth such a ship? With the cruise terminal right there, a ship of that size would not fit. FYI, that's the Carnival Victory in
36 Post contains images Stratofortress : Slightly off topic, but this poster is too awesome not to share...
37 LMP737 : Keeps them from doing plane gaurd duties. I've done the Missouri tour before. A guided tour that allows you to see more of the ship costs extra. When
38 Oroka : I cant see the USN leaving the reactors intact and opening the ship to the public. I mean, there is just too many places to get lost on a CVN, too ma
39 BladeLWS : Reactors are not left intact, they will be removed and taken to a disposal site, and then buried.
40 LMP737 : She's not, CV-6 was cut up for scrap. IMO the two USN ships that should have been preserved, USS Enterprise and USS Washington, ended up on the break
41 L-188 : There was a move to make her a museum ship in San Fransico but then the gay community got all up in arms about don't ask don't tell and the gay accus
42 Woodreau : I did a middie cruise on a support ship that was escorting the Vinson, a long time ago, when the support ships were also nuclear. The captain was boun
43 Post contains links StudeDave : Uhhhh, what? CV-63 is livin' the retired life in Bremerton, WA. Do you maybe mean xUSS Midway (CV-41) in San Diego??? http://www.midway.org/ I retire
44 Post contains links and images JohnJ : It will be interesting to see what becomes of the current US aircraft carrier mothball fleet as it's getting quite large. I was in Bremerton a couple
45 LMP737 : I was thinking the USS Washington since it engaged and sunk a Japanese battleship preety much on it's own.
46 Rwessel : While I don't doubt that a Nimitz would have outrun a Virginia*, I think you need to provide some backup for a claim of 40kts for a Virginia. As a po
47 Oroka : So, pulling out 8 reactors and any sensitive equipment would be quite expensive, especially if they have to preserve the structure to be restored. I
48 Rwessel : The reactors have to be pulled (basically intact) and disposed of properly, no matter what the disposition of the hull. Your job might be a bit easie
49 BladeLWS : Correct, and this is also the reason why the Navy is trying to retire her early. She eats up a lot of fuel with those eight reactors compared to the
50 AAR90 : CVN65 did that regularly in early 80's. It was simply part of the operational plans. CVN65 is slightly faster due to hull shape. CVN68 & later have s
51 L-188 : Beat me to it. I remember my grandparents had a Nat Geo from the time when Enterprise and Long Beach where the hot ships out there that said they had
52 Woodreau : All I have is memory from 17 years ago on midshipman cruise. I guess you could pull the engine bell logs and the engineer's logs from the naval archi
53 Dreadnought : According to the old empirical formula developed for capital ships in the 30s, (Max speed = 1.19 x SQR(waterline length)), Nimitz should top out at a
54 L-188 : Ranger did also, but spent the war in the Atlantic or running training missions They where the only 3 if you belive Wikkipedia. Langley was sunk whil
55 Rwessel : While the traditional empirical formula is OK for a first order approximation, it leaves a bunch of stuff out. But still you can use it to scale betw
56 UH60FtRucker : lol - got a good chuckle out of that
57 StudeDave : I've only been to sea on EIGHT different Carriers- CV-43, CV-63, CVN-65, CVN-70, CVN-71, CVN-72, CVN-74, and CVN-76. Some were faster then others. Wh
58 RIXrat : Too bad about the USS America (CV-66) now sitting deep in the ocean. I remember visiting her with my wife and two sons in Palma, Majorka, during Chris
59 StealthZ : Firstly thanks all for a great thread, have learnt much. You might need a higher waterfall.... For those that need assistance with the scale of a USN
60 NA : Agreed. Thanks all for making one of the best threads I've seen on this forum. I´m neither a military guy nor a supporter of nuclear energy but the
61 Post contains images NA : Here´s a drawing of CVN-75, USS Harry S. Truman, with markings and configuration as of 2008. I made it in the past weeks. Hope you like it, even if i
62 Nomadd22 : Nice to see that you took hull 101 and feel qualified to call service people liars based on your high school understanding of the dynamics. Using vag
63 Post contains links JakeOrion : This site doesn't have any US carriers in terms of scale yet, but the Battleship Yamato is featured on it, as well as several other stuff. Mostly scif
64 Tiger119 : - Corpus Christi. It looked real nice when I was down there a few years ago. - That picture is just too cool for words! David
65 Surfpunk : For those who are interested, there is a group in Portland, OR trying to save the Ranger from the scrap heap and have it setup as a museum ship there
66 RFields5421 : One problem is that preserving and opening a Navy ship as a museum is incredibly expensive. The larger the ship, the higher the costs. To preserve an
67 HaveBlue : You made it? Nice! I like it. Thanks for sharing. And this has been a great and informative thread.
68 Tiger119 : - That needs to be on a t shirt and sold with the profits going to a needy charity! Maybe to a foundation set up to fund a retired carrier as a museu
69 ThirtyEcho : Relax, mate, we're on your side.
70 NA : Thanks! Good idea. That poster is a very strong image.
71 Zkpilot : They are generally believed to be well above 35kts, most sources say 40kt. I have heard stories from Navy folk that take them well over 40kts! The bo
72 2H4 : How is it possible for branches of the military to spend money maintaining museums (the USAF museum in Dayton, Ohio, for example), and at the same ti
73 RFields5421 : Ask Congress. The Army and Air Force have the same problem, though on a much smaller scale. There are hundreds of Army vehicles and Air Force aircraf
74 Post contains links 2H4 : Sure enough! 2H4
75 Tiger119 : - How did he get Thunderchief? Did he buy the thing? If he bought the thing who did he buy it from? What it an authorized purchase and did he have pr
76 Tiger119 : - Does anyone have any ideas where to look for this on a t shirt or where I could start to have this made into a t shirt? I'm sure there are copyrigh
77 RFields5421 : He purchased the plane as 'scrap' from Davis-Monthan. The purchase requires the plane to be destroyed. It leaves Arizona in several large pieces.I'm
78 Post contains links JohnJ : Looks like someone already had the idea for a T-Shirt - this would be a BIG hit for an American to wear touring around Europe: http://www.zazzle.com/
79 747400sp : I currently serve on one of the newer Nimitz class ships. I know that both the Reagan and the Bush has bigger flight decks than the other Nimitz class
80 KiwiRob : And where is all that extra power going to go, the reactor doesn't turn the shaft, the reactor only supplies steam to the turbines which turn the sha
81 Bramble : No need to apologise. I have never reallt believed the 'official' specs of military hardware to be fully true! To quote from globalsecurity.org "Amer
82 L-188 : There is a lot of truth in that poster...we seem to have forgotten that of late.
83 Tiger119 : " target=_blank>http://www.zazzle.com/90_000_ton_of_...54659 - I am going to order one of these shirts and look to see how long before anyone asks me
84 Zkpilot : The 300,000shp is from the turbines.... but for them to produce that amount of shp the reactors need to be at or about 100%. What I am saying is that
85 KiwiRob : I just don't see 40 knots as possible given the fact that Nimitz uses the same turbines as Kitty Hawk, they have a similar hull form and we know the K
86 AAR90 : 1. Nimitz does NOT use the same turbines as KH. The conventional 1200lb steam plant's turbines are significantly different than ANY nuclear powered v
87 KiwiRob : A hurricane force wind is over 64 knots, I don't think anyone would believe that a CV/CVN was capable of that kind of speed.
88 DiamondFlyer : Wouldn't have to be. Put the ship into the wind, add the velocity of the ship and the velocity of the wind. I think it would be entirely possible to
89 ANZUS340 : I say, KiwiRob if it was not for the fact that you are on an aviation site I would swear you are my cousin from Christchurch. I served in the NZ mili
90 StudeDave : I would~ been there, done that. (or have I?)
91 KiwiRob : So you wouldn't really need to go that fast, just point your nose into a stiff breeze
92 DiamondFlyer : No one ever came in here and said a CVN is going to be able to do 64+ knots through the water. But it doesn't take a genius to figure out it is very
93 AAR90 : Except for those of us who really have "been there, done that." There are many tactical reasons for a CVN to be capable of a very fast transit. None
94 NA : Unless the captain of the USS Ronald Reagan tells us how fast his boat really is we´d never know before the year 2050. I´d be very surprised if the
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