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RAF Typhoons Deploy Down South  
User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13165 posts, RR: 78
Posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7683 times:

The Tornado F.3's of 1435 RAF, which provides air policing and a basic airborne military presence over the Falkland Islands, have been replaced by Typhoons.

http://www.fast-air.co.uk/RAF-Coning...-Falklands-Typhoon-Flight-1435.htm

Though the military threat is very low, aside from the presence/policing role, it must provide some excellent flying/training opportunities with the airspace being virtually empty by European and US standards.

A history of 1435 Flight RAF;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._1435_Flight_RAF

A video of the aircraft being replaced from a few years ago;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=AU&hl=en-GB&v=QI-U3-9UO0w

[Edited 2009-09-19 11:16:42]

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User currently offlineEBJ1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1932 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7619 times:

Personally, I hope the airplanes get some kind of distinctive markings; the article indicated that it's not yet known if markinings will be applied or the airplanes will remain plain jane.


Dare to dream; dream big!
User currently offlineConnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7600 times:

Excellent video, GDB. Thanks for posting. Scrolling down through the comments, some of the posters on YouTube are more ignorant than many here.


Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
User currently offlineNorlander From Faroe Islands, joined Sep 2007, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7538 times:

What a fantastic video. The Falklands look remarkably similar to the Islands up here in the North Atlantic (the Faroes, Shetland, Orkney and Outer Hebrides).


Longtime Lurker
User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13165 posts, RR: 78
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7496 times:

Did you spot what the crew of the C-130 were doing about two and a half mins in?

A Maltese Cross (part of 1435 Flights history and heritage, was on one Typhoon, them removed. But perhaps once settled in the islands it or something else might be applied.
I doubt any Foreign Office type can see for 8000 miles.


User currently offlineOroka From Canada, joined Dec 2006, 911 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 7331 times:



Quoting GDB (Reply 4):
Did you spot what the crew of the C-130 were doing about two and a half mins in?

I caught that one! That was pretty darn funny. The video reminded me of a video I seen of some french jets doing some crazy low level flying (like near eye level with a truck on a road). Very well done video. I guess when you are so far away from the brass, you can play a bit!


User currently offlineSpectre242 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 6968 times:

I remember an F3 pilot talking to a group of us about being stationed down at Mount Pleasant, his words were to something to the effect of "2000 troops are stuck for 6 months in the middle of nowhere, 8000 miles from home, with a regular supply of booze - it makes for one hell of a party!"

Does anyone know what route the Typhoons and Tornados take getting to and from there? Via Ascension and Gibraltar at least I assume (which would still need some aerial refueling)? Also, how often are the individual aircraft typically rotated back to the UK?


User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13165 posts, RR: 78
Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6858 times:

Didn't think there were 2000 troops there even, the MoD list the army deployment as a 'reinforced infantry company', though if you factor in support personnel, the locally raised defence force, the local patrol vessels along with the RN's Arctic Patrol Ship and the crew of whatever RN Frigate or Destroyer is the Guardship, it could well be that number.

The Typhoons tanked down, a VC-10 is also stationed on the Islands, but when the RAF got C-17's, on at least one occasion one Tornado F.3 went down in the cargo hold, after the swinging portion of the wings were removed.
Cannot do that with a Typhoon!

The F-4M's were not returned to the UK, one is a station gate guard, the others I understand were broken up there,
The F.3's probably will be returned, since though the fleet is phasing out, some will be active for a couple of years yet, unlike the Phantoms in 1992.

No idea on rotations, as and when any technical needs arise I guess.


User currently offlineSpectre242 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6810 times:



Quoting GDB (Reply 7):
Didn't think there were 2000 troops there even

I don't know if I am recalling the actual number he said - may well be less than that, but you get the idea.

I didn't realize they left the Phantoms down there, you'd think they could have at least stuck them on a container ship. I suppose there could well be a very reputable scrap merchant in Stanley for all I know!

If that was the case for the Phantoms then unless the 1435 F.3 airframes have a comparably low number of flying hours, it's perhaps equally conceivable that they won't rotate them back into a mainland UK squadron. The RAF must have a good stock of surplus airframes and parts to pick from with the disbanded Leeming squadrons.


User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13165 posts, RR: 78
Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 6687 times:

We'll have to see Spectre, the F.3's might come back in the holds of C-17's.

That fleet will be active in some form or other for a couple of years yet, whereas the F-4 phase out was very rapid.

It would be interesting to find out the flying hours of 1435 flight frames, but I bet they pull more G's more often that UK based units.


User currently offlineKennyk From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 482 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 6374 times:

Great video, spent 4 months down at Mount Alice in 96, will have to play the vid eo back slower as they overflow at least one remote radar site, looked like Byron Heights and possibly Mount Kent. It does look a bit like the Shetlands, should know, spent 3 years at Saxa Vord and time in the Orkneys and Outer Hebrides. The F3s brought back memories too, saw some spectacular very fast and low fly pasts (measles). Even an Eric but no Tommys or Timmys just a 747. and no Wokkas.

User currently offlineJabs From Portugal, joined Feb 2007, 35 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 6179 times:

Hi

Quote:

“The serials of the four Typhoons FGR.4 for 1435 Flight at RAF Mount Pleasant, in the Falkland Islands, are ZJ949, ZJ950, ZK300 and ZK301.
They are going to leave in October, but this could be brought forward due to the rapid retirement of the Tornado F3.


“Typhoons Getting Ready to Head Down South” News UK, AirForces Monthly October 2009, page 7



Quoting GDB (Reply 4):
A Maltese Cross (part of 1435 Flights history and heritage, was on one Typhoon, them removed. But perhaps once settled in the islands it or something else might be applied.
I doubt any Foreign Office type can see for 8000 miles.

On the article there's a photo of one Typhoon with the Maltese Cross on the tail.

Regards


User currently offlineWAH64D From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 966 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6126 times:

A shame to see the F3s go. I remember being wakened in the wee small hours at MPA by either "Faith", "Hope", "Charity" or "Desperation" deploying on an Alpha Scramble. Great aircraft being replaced by an even greater one.


I AM the No-spotalotacus.
User currently offlineJabs From Portugal, joined Feb 2007, 35 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5844 times:

Hi

The Typhoon FGR4s departed from RAF Coningsby to the Falkland Islands on September 12.
Two fo them had the PIRATE sensor removed.

Regards


User currently offlineJabs From Portugal, joined Feb 2007, 35 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5731 times:

Hi,

If the need arises, how many additional Typhoons can Mount Pleasant receive?

Regards


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