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User currently offlineDevildog2222 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 141 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 12 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 6740 times:

Just wondering when did Air Force One leave for Hawaii. The reason I ask is because I was wondering if they would fly over the SF bay area and if they do I would like to see if I can see it.

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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12181 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (4 years 12 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 6709 times:

I thought Obama was delaying his Hawaii vacation until he got his health care bill. Is that not true? The health care bill is now in the Senate/House "Conference" Committee, hammering out the differences.

User currently offlineDevildog2222 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 12 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6700 times:

Well this morning before he left he said great job to the senate on passing the bill.

User currently offlineHaveBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2124 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 12 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6536 times:



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 1):
I thought Obama was delaying his Hawaii vacation until he got his health care bill. Is that not true? The health care bill is now in the Senate/House "Conference" Committee, hammering out the differences.

I have a buddy who is an ATC in Hawaii, and he is indeed there. In fact he posted several pictures of the actual street where Obama is staying and the security around the area.



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User currently offlineRwy8l From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 12 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 6439 times:

Okay so Air Force One touched down yesterday, (12/24/09) shortly before 1500 hrs. local time, Hawaii. Anyone know if both VC "sisters" are here? Or is it just one?

User currently offlineHa763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3672 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (4 years 12 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 6328 times:
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From what I saw, only 1 VC-25 is here. I don't think they use both when the destination is in the U.S. I was stuck on the ramp when GWB visited in 2006 and only 1 VC-25 was here. Even when GWB stopped over at HIK for 4 hours on his way back from the APEC meeting in Australia in 2007, only 1 VC-25 landed.

Got a shot of AF1 landing at 14:47 and taxiing to HIK at 14:53, but couldn't see the tail number. Posted the pictures on the HNL RareBirds blog.

However, there is an E-4B that stopped in ITO today.


User currently offlineBladeLWS From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 12 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 6241 times:

I don't think both fly into the same airport, for distribution of assets. Say one of the VC's was attacked, or the airport unreachable, they can ferry the president to another VC nearby. I beleive that on some past european trips AF1 would land at the close civilian airport where he was going, and the backup would land at a nearby military base.

User currently offlineAs739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6197 posts, RR: 24
Reply 7, posted (4 years 12 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 6221 times:

As far as I have been told by family (Air Force), that US destinations only one a/c will go. Occasionally a C-32 (B757) will be on hand. In the case of Obama visiting San Francisco a few months back the C-32 only flew in when AF1 arrived with a minor maintenance issue.


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User currently offlineHaynflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 151 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 5629 times:

2 E4s were in ITO. I can see one being here since POTUS was on Oahu, but two?? Could they have been here for something else?

Here are pics from the HNL Rare Birds blogspot:

http://hnlrarebirds.blogspot.com/



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User currently offlineMoose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2402 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 5584 times:



Quoting Haynflyer (Reply 8):
2 E4s were in ITO. I can see one being here since POTUS was on Oahu, but two?? Could they have been here for something else?

How long were they there? From what I read of the blog, it sounds like one was on site, then the second one replaced it - could have just been the normal crew rotation...IIRC, they pull a week-long tour before the next crew replaces them, and both aircraft happened to be on the ground at the same time.



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User currently offlineHaYnFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 151 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 5522 times:

Thanks Moose, I agree but I thinking it would have been cheaper to fly them all the way out here either commercial or on a smaller aircraft.


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User currently offlineMoose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2402 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 5397 times:

I don't remember very many times they would send a crew commercial (unless we were picking up a plane out of depot or something). You would have a bunch of gear, pubs, etc. to bring along, and with an airplane like the E-4, the crew probably carries classified materials that you wouldn't want to stuff in the overhead...also, they do need to fly a certain number of sorties to maintain proficiency, so it serves as a training mission as well as repositioning flight.

I guess they could send them as pax on another flight, but unless you happened to have a cargo/pax flight heading between the right places, you end up tasking another aircraft/crew for the trip, and probably don't save very much if anything that way.

[Edited 2010-01-07 19:30:10 by moose135]


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