kanban From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2498 posts, RR: 21 Posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
The first two aircraft flew last year, T2 just got a new radar (Boeing site news).. and a new torpedo for this application was announced at the Singapore Airshow (Flightglobal report). However there seems to be nothing on the web about the flight test status of these planes.
flybaurLAX From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 634 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
I have no clue about the schedule of test flights or it's progress, but I saw it out on the ramp at Boeing Field yesterday on my approach to SEA from the jumpseat in a 737. I saw it next to a 787. I suppose if it's out there, it must be getting close to flying.
flybaurLAX From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 634 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (3 years 4 months 5 days ago) and read 32767 times:
So, I may have seen the wrong thing when I came in last weekend. I thought I saw the P-8, but I believe it would have had to fly from Renton to BFI in order to be there. I was at the Museum of Flight today, and saw 2 Turkish Air Force 737s there, so maybe these are the grey a/c I saw.
Drewski2112 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 99 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (3 years 4 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
The first P-8A is inside the BCA flight test hangar at Boeing field. It was out on the commercial airplanes flightline earlier last week with flight test instruments on the tail. It flew four or five times in October using the callsign "SCORE 85," but hasn't flown since.
The second and third (airworthy) P-8A's are inside the developmental centere hangar across the street from the Boeing military ramp. Both the second and third planes haven't flown since their first flights, which were in June and September, respectively. Currently, there are no airworthy P-8A's being assembled at Renton.
KC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 11738 posts, RR: 51 Reply 4, posted (3 years 4 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
I don't see a USN P-8A in the pisture, or the Turkish AF B-737-AEW aircraft. That is a picture of the RAAF B-737-AEW-Wedgetail. It is carrying the FAA reg. N35BBJ, which I think is Wedgetail airplane #5. I don't recall this airplane flying yet, either.
Revelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 10565 posts, RR: 21 Reply 5, posted (3 years 4 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Quoting Drewski2112 (Reply 3): Both the second and third planes haven't flown since their first flights, which were in June and September, respectively.
And if the A/C are at Boeing Field instead of Renton they had to fly at least once, no?
KC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 11738 posts, RR: 51 Reply 6, posted (3 years 4 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Quoting Revelation (Reply 5): Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 4):
#2 and #3 have yet to fly their FF.
I think you missed this:
Quoting Drewski2112 (Reply 3):
Both the second and third planes haven't flown since their first flights, which were in June and September, respectively.
And if the A/C are at Boeing Field instead of Renton they had to fly at least once, no?
flybaurLAX From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 634 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (3 years 4 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 4): I don't see a USN P-8A in the pisture, or the Turkish AF B-737-AEW aircraft. That is a picture of the RAAF B-737-AEW-Wedgetail. It is carrying the FAA reg. N35BBJ, which I think is Wedgetail airplane #5. I don't recall this airplane flying yet, either.
Gotchya, there was the one (pictured), that I see now says RAAF, but there was one to the right of it yesterday that said Turkish Air Force. I didn't see these guys last weekend when I flew overhead jumpseating, but did see a darker grey, so possibly that was the P-8.
kanban From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2498 posts, RR: 21 Reply 8, posted (3 years 4 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Quoting Drewski2112 (Reply 3): The first P-8A is inside the BCA flight test hangar at Boeing field. It was out on the commercial airplanes flightline earlier last week with flight test instruments on the tail. It flew four or five times in October using the callsign "SCORE 85," but hasn't flown since.
The second and third (airworthy) P-8A's are inside the developmental centere hangar across the street from the Boeing military ramp. Both the second and third planes haven't flown since their first flights, which were in June and September, respectively. Currently, there are no airworthy P-8A's being assembled at Renton
thanks.. that's more than I could get from my ME contacts at Boeing..
Quoting flybaurLAX (Reply 7): Gotchya, there was the one (pictured), that I see now says RAAF, but there was one to the right of it yesterday that said Turkish Air Force. I didn't see these guys last weekend when I flew overhead jumpseating, but did see a darker grey, so possibly that was the P-8.
The RAAF is an Australian Wedgetail... P-8's dont have that dorsal fin
KC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 11738 posts, RR: 51 Reply 9, posted (3 years 4 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Apparently the USN P-8A #1 just completed a month long vibration test of the wing mounted weapons stores.
Drewski2112 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 99 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
YP003 (P-8A T2) was towed across East Marginal Way to the Boeing military ramp at 0400 PST this morning. I didn't see any noticeable external modifications from when I last saw it in June.
Zkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4740 posts, RR: 10 Reply 13, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Quoting flybaurLAX (Reply 2): So, I may have seen the wrong thing when I came in last weekend. I thought I saw the P-8, but I believe it would have had to fly from Renton to BFI in order to be there. I was at the Museum of Flight today, and saw 2 Turkish Air Force 737s there, so maybe these are the grey a/c I saw.
Yes there are some Turkish 737s but I think they are for VIP transport or something.
The 737 in the pic is the RAAF (Australian) Wedgetail... its an AWACS/Over the horizon radar type platform.
Eskimotail From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 33 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
In early Feb T-1 was outside at the North end of Boeing Field for about 12 hours. You probobly saw that one. It went immediatly back inside the big Boeing hangar at the North end of the field. A really close look would have revealed its underwing surprises.
P8A radar is APY-10.
This week T-1 and T-2 both relocated to the Military Flight Center and are basking outdoors there right now. They are side by side in stalls at the Military Flight Center.
One more (T-3) lurks close by, waiting for its oppurtunity to escape the build hangar. The 2 static test (S-1, S-2) birds are safely in their steel fixtures in Renton. There was a recent successful mile stone of 150 percent load.
Along side the 2 P8As at the South end, there is 1 Austrailian AEWC (Wedgetail) and 1 Turkish AEWC (Peace Eagle) in residence and both are flying regularly. There are occaisional visits of targets visiting the MFC ramp to support the AEWC testing. There are 5 additional Wedgetails currently in Austrailia, and 3 additional Peace Eagles in Turkey.
Of course there is the resident E3 AWACS that flys regularly, and the 757 flying test bed flying regularly.
The P8 is on schedule, and will have 3 full up models in flight testing shortly.
Ironicly since the P8s have moved outdoors, the P3 Orion training traffic at Boeing field has increased dramaticly. The Navy bubbas trying to glimpse the future, ya know.
kanban From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2498 posts, RR: 21 Reply 15, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
drewski2112 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 99 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
kanban From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2498 posts, RR: 21 Reply 17, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Quoting drewski2112 (Reply 16): Sure did. Left at 1600 with N416X and returned back to BFI at 1800. Terrible weather for both takeoff and landing. Here's my pic from yesterday:
Good picture, thanks..are you going to upload it to the A.net photo file
Also heard the the a/c will head to Patuxent River by the end of the month for formal flight test
Eskimotail From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 33 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Drewski2112 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 99 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
After a failed attempt yesterday due to weather conditions (for some reason they don't like to fly through clouds), T-1 left at 0645 PDT today for NHK. They were only cleared up to FL230.
I was up there last week (last Sat and Sun) and it was in fact out of the hanger. When my buddy and I were at the Museum it was parked facing to the north. It was completely surround with orange tape to prevent any un-welcomed guest. I didn't see much security, but I am sure it was there. Great looking wing on the P-8.
"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"
Drewski2112 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 99 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (3 years 2 weeks ago) and read 32767 times:
P-8A T-2 (cn 34396/2814) flew yesterday afternoon as "SCORE 97" on a BFI round robin. No chase planes like we saw with T-1's flights. This was T-2's first, and second ever, flight in literally a year (first flight was on 5 June 2009).
Eskimotail From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 33 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (3 years 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
P8 no longer requires chase to fly. The ATC system can now handle P8 without chase. T1 is in Maryland, T2 going shortly, T3 in about a month. T4 is in Renton, on assy line 3.
25 KC135TopBoom: I am wondering if the success (so far) in the USN P-8A program actually reduces the risk on the proposed KC-767NG program?
26 bikerthai: Slight error with the report. T-2 took off and landed at Boeing Field. The take off from Renton was earlier in the year. T-4 airplane should be takin
27 bikerthai: T-2 has moved to Pax River. http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gener...0To%20Pax%20River%20Testing%20Site bikerthai
28 DEVILFISH: Could one of those be by any chance this South Korean AF "Peace Eye" AEWC aircraft?..... .....as it suddenly made its appearance seemingly without pr
29 kanban: they are both Korean...note the Korean characters on he forward fuselage... and the aft logo is Korean
30 DEVILFISH: It's the same airplane - I knew - I put the photos together. I was referring to Reply 14's description of the apron scene and inquiring if something
31 kanban: sorry misread your question... I was over there late Feb and didn't see the Korean unit out on the field...
33 kanban: I have discovered that that is the only Korean Wedgetail to be modified in Seattle, the rest will be done in Korea from kits. it's strange with all th
34 N92R03: Somewhat off topic but... The hangar/simulator bay in Jacksonville is being built. Projected completion is about a year away.
35 KC135TopBoom: Has the USN announced basing plans for the 108 P-8As, besides JAX?
36 bikerthai: Found this on the web "From Defense Aerospace P-8A Multi-Mission Maritime Aircraft Homebasing Announced (Source: US Department of Defense; issued Jan
37 kanban: Boeing Commercial and Boeing Military have swapped some properties so the old Thompson site (previous life as 737 assembly and then propulsion divisio
38 bikerthai: Don't forget the big fiber placed machines. Having taken over the DC and all the composite capabilities there, it would lead one to conclude that Boe
39 Bennett123: How do those who will fly/operate the new aircraft view the move from the P3C?.
40 kanban: I've heard they love the test vehicles... , and we're hoping the Royal Navy and Nato will buy a few..
41 bikerthai: Well, they will get . . . - a new lav - a new galley - lay flat crew rest seat instead of fold down cots - large LCD screens bikerthai
42 SHAQ: Can this a/c be refueled air-to-air ? I hope the USAF buys also the Wedgetail 737
43 Eskimotail: Yes on recieving fuel as built right now, and conceptually eventually able to deliver fuel in the long term. Test crews are ecstatic about it, they w
44 ThePointblank: On the subject of the P-8, it appears that the Indians want to add to their order. The Indians are planning an additional 4 P-8i's through exercising
45 bikerthai: You would have to chose: Sonobuoy launchers/bomb bay or Mesa Radar. Both system will not fit in the back of the airplane. Even if the Wedgetail can d
46 Drewski2112: The fourth P-8A (cn 40594/3324) flew out of RNT today as BOE6A. This is the first production frame. Here's a pic: http://www.flickr.com/photos/smartju
47 bikerthai: Correction. This aircraft is T-4; still a test aircraft. The next two T-5 and T-6 will also be test aircraft. The first production frame will be LRIP
48 bikerthai: Further clarification: They call T4 a "production representative test vehicle", not quite "production". bikerthai
49 Revelation: And the pilots will get a logbook filled with 737 time, which will be damn nice thing to have if they are thinking about a nice post-military career
50 Drewski2112: Thanks. I was aware of the five frames, but I must have counted the static and fatigue frames. I wonder if this will be the first P-8A to be worked a
51 kanban: if we told you we'd have to shoot you... actually I believe it is...
52 bikerthai: Confirmed. I saw pictures but they self destructed. bikerthai
53 bikerthai: Update: http://blog.seattlepi.com/aerospace/archives/225839.asp "U.S. Navy Boeing P-8A Poseidon launches first sonobuoys" "The P-8A launched six sonob
54 bikerthai: Update: See the new P-8A Assembly building http://blog.seattlepi.com/aerospace/archives/228190.asp [i]The new building obviously wasn't purpose-built
55 kanban: Looks like the Thompson Site, smells like the Thompson Site, but having been home to the B-29???? that would be Plant II ... so where are we???? Abou
56 Drewski2112: The crossing from the airport to the Thompson site, based on Google earth, shows it at 114ft thanks to Hangar 89 that went up this summer. The 737NG w
57 kanban: The PI picture seems to imply this will be a moving line, are they bringing the birds in the back of the building? I didn't think there was room to co
58 STT757: A couple questions, First is it 108 or 117, I've heard all along it will be 108 but now I'm reading 117; Here are some articles referencing "117" P-8
59 Ozair: Didn't the Navy recently announce that they would b e holding on to some P-3s as the P-8 hadn't been approved for special mission aircraft yet? I'm s
60 STT757: There are no P-3s permanently based overseas, there are detachment bases that host squadrons rotated in from bases in the US. Overseas P-3 detachment
61 Drewski2112: From everything I've been told, the Thompson site was a purpose built factory for the 737 line. They started making 737's there in late 1967 and stop
62 kanban: thought the B-29's were only from Plant II and the KC135s, 377/C97's were from Renton...
63 kanban: interesting video http://www.economicvindicator.com/20...pens-seattle-sub-killer-plant.html moved from a duplicate post that will probably be removed.
64 Drewski2112: Spirit Aerosystems is starting to make the first Indian Navy P-8I's fuselage: http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=1548 In related news
65 bikerthai: I think the 117 is the result of 108 Production birds + 9 test frames. The test frames include T1, through T8 and the static test bird. But don't tak
66 bikerthai: Correction: Flying Test frames are T1 through T6. S1 and S2 are static and fatigue frames. I think the Navy did not want the extra test frame and did
67 bikerthai: Update: "The P-8A Poseidon program has completed full-scale static testing" "Although static testing is complete, the airframe still has work to do in
68 kanban: nice video of a touch and go plus a low pass at Paine Field from KPAE Blogspot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFQWNKS-ZhQ&feature=player_embedded
69 njgtr82: There was one flying off the coast on NJ today on a flight from and back to Pax River this afternoon
70 Revelation: Seems the $$$ are flowing: Seattle Times: Navy inks $1.6B contract for initial P-8 Poseidon production planes In way of a program update: Sounds like
71 bikerthai: Here is the news release from the NAVY: http://www.navair.navy.mil/newsrelea...x.cfm?fuseaction=home.view&id=4481 It included a nice photo of fla
72 STT757: Again they're mentioning 117, not 108. As quoted in reply 36; five squadrons at Jacksonville One fleet replacement squadron at Jacksonville four squa
73 dahawaiian: Basing Update: http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/2...ight_shift_more_jets_to_isles.html Possibly 24 more P-8's for Kaneohe Bay? They might as well re
74 Himself: I wonder if the Navy are planning to lend the extra P-8s to the Army for their ISR needs in Afghanistan or Iraq.
75 STT757: The article's information is a bit confusing, I think as it stands now 117 P-8s are planned to deploy with 13 squadrons (3 Kaneohe Bay, 4 Whidbey Isl
76 kanban: The first production unit enters Final Assembly.. http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=1654
77 bikerthai: Lets hope that we are out of Afghanistan before that. Personally I hope the Army/Airforce buy this instead: Boeing Proposes EP-8 To Replace Jstars (b
78 kanban: I'm hearing rumors that Boeing is about to erect some new manufacturing buildings in Renton... don't know if these are 737 (P-8) support or 787 or 767
79 Eskimotail: These are primarily to support 737 production rate increases....
81 bikerthai: Yes, but not part of the MESA radar system. If you have a Hi Res copy of flight international cut away poster, it will tell you what that system is.
82 Beiaard: Being from Jacksonville, the hum of those Allison T56s and big Hamilton Standard props are like a mother's lullaby to me. That said, I'm excited for t
83 bikerthai: A small peek into the P-8A Military Line. This is where the mission equipment are installed after BCA delivers the aircraft from Renton to Boeing Fiel
84 kanban: first production A/C completed first flight -- link has picture http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=1844 now we're cooking..
86 kanban: Matt has captured video of the first Indian P-8I in flight test. http://kpae.blogspot.com/ Good to see this baby in the air and I must admit I thought
87 Devilfish: Radar and combat systems tests conducted..... http://www.defense-aerospace.com/art...s-tests-at-sea-with-destroyer.html Quote: "ATLANTIC OCEAN --- On
88 Eskimotail: Now it can sting..... http://blogs.ottawacitizen.com/2011/...idon-launches-first-mk-54-torpedo/
89 bikerthai: India to aquire 12 more P-8I http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=123898 "At a later date, it was planned to acquire 12 more P-8Is for of
90 kanban: Well the first operational one has now been delivered to the Navy http://www.bizjournals.com/wichita/n...-first-p-8a-to-navy.html?ana=yfcpc http://boe
91 Revelation: Interesting context surrounding the order: Ok, it can observe small boats like the terrorists used, but how would it stop them? A Harpoon would seem
92 flightsimer: Ya i know its a little late... But... talking about clearances with the P-8... At Pax River, they had to cut the doors of the hangar so they could fi
93 bikerthai: Hopefully they will eventually be able to deploy SDBII which would work well against slow moving boats. For the faster boats, you can always do a low
94 LMP737: I know it probably won't happen but what about NAS North Island? With the S-3 Vikings gone there's open space and there already is a VR squadron that
95 StudeDave: It has been over three years since I retired and left NAS North Island, but before I left I visited a few friends who where standing up some of the n
96 LMP737: Your info is more up to date than mine still. I got out almost twenty years ago! Guess it would make little sense to have three bases on the west coa
97 kanban: I thought I heard a second operational unit has now been delivered to the Navy.. can anyone confirm
98 bikerthai: Please clarify. LRIP1-1 was delivered to the Navy earlier this month. They just had the "official" ceremony this week. Don't think LRIP1-2 have flown
99 kanban: LRIP1-1 delivered 3-6 don't know the line number, then line 2931 was reported flown to Elgin 3-20... maybe that isn't a delivery...
100 bikerthai: Line 2931 is one of the early test planes. Probably went to Elgin to do some joint exercise or something. bt
101 kanban: do you have a list of the test line numbers and the first say 10 LRIP line numbers.. would help me keep them straight.
102 Drewski2112: As of 31 March 2012: United States Navy test frames: YP001 - BuNo 167951 (cn 34394/2599). First flight 15 April 2009. YP003 - BuNo 167953 (cn 34396/28
103 kanban: Thanks I was forwarded some P-8 news articles that might be of interest.. I realize that a program on schedule and on budget with no major systems pr
104 Beiaard: Thanks for the links. I'll keep an eye on the sky next time I'm home in hopes of seeing one...at the same time, though, I know I'll miss the chest-vi
105 flightsimer: Well now that it's finally public information, the p-8 has been at RAF Lossiemouth in Scotland for the last week and will be there till next Saturday
106 kanban: Nice post flightsimer, enjoyed the pictures..
107 Revelation: Recent article from FG: US Navy to start P-8 operational tests in the summer Also has a good overview of what is coming up in Increment 2: It's not c
108 bikerthai: From: http://www.navair.navy.mil/index.cfm...AEF3CE-30B0-4C3D-829C-50FEF3A301F3 Multi-Static Active Coherent (MAC) MAC is the third generation of mul
109 Revelation: Skydivers use 54 meters/sec as an estimate for terminal velocity, so a 10,000m fall (32.8 k feet) would take 185 seconds, a tad more than three minut
110 bikerthai: Are you using the pone position or the dive position? So if in a clean configuration (no chutes) the buoys would travel at 100+ m/s then it would tak
111 Revelation: I'm using a SWAG! Yep, it was amazing to see not how long they took to fall, but also how unstable they were.
112 Beiaard: I'm an arts and humanities type, so don't mistake this for questioning your knowledge, but wouldn't that terminal velocity only be valid for somethin
113 bikerthai: Your intuition is correct . . . And as an Engineering Term WAG is "Wild Ass Guess" and a SWAG is just a "Scientific Wild Ass Guess" Finally looked it
114 flightsimer: Well VX-1 and their P-8 was out of the country again last month in the southern hemisphere but has since returned. But right now they are a deployment
115 JayinKitsap: I think it depends on shape and density. There is a given air drag for a body, once that Force = mg there is no more acceleration and down she goes.
116 bikerthai: Posted it before and will post again . . . Please keep us updated. It's good to hear what's going on with the P-8 from more than the "official" sourc
117 kanban: Does anybody know how many have been completed through outfitting and delivered?
118 spudh: Ahem, density has nothing to do with it save for surface area exposed to friction. Remember a cannonball will fall at the same speed as a feather in
119 Eskimotail: Completed P8s 3 Instrumented Flight Test Aircraft to the Integrated Test Team at PAX River 3 full up IOTE aircraft to VX-1 at PAX River 2 full up ope
120 bikerthai: Unless you have propulsion, free fall would be the fastest way to get to the water surface in order to more quickly activate the sensors. As for addi
121 StudeDave: Is that supposed to say "VP-30"? StudeDave
122 Eskimotail: Yes, indeed VP-30, yikes This represents a typical profile used for ASW work, all done at less than 1,000 AGL. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B..
123 bikerthai: I'm pretty sure you are not talking about the bomb bay. Other than the oxygen tanks and the aerial refueling lines, I don't know what other explosive
124 flightsimer: VX-20 is the first squad. Though unless it's been delivered since April, I didn't think VX-1 had the third yet. I thought my brother said they only h
125 bikerthai: There is a little confusion in terminology. One of the test frame was delivered with full configuration and will not return to Boeing for re-furb. I'
126 Eskimotail: Some Sonobouy species contain 8 pounds of class A explosives. These are carried in the cabin just like all the others. I can Guarantee there are 6 as
127 bikerthai: Just to supplement Eskimotail's summary, P-8I airframe 1 will be doing ordinance dropping test this summer. Expect to see it take off from Boeing fie
128 flightsimer: Thanks, so was the third p-8 delivered to VX-1 prior to April or was it only more recently? AS for RIMPAC, it is finishing up this week and the plane
129 blrsea: Check out some pics of the P8-I ordered by India here : http://livefist.blogspot.com/2012/07...p-close-with-indian-navy-p-8i.html It is scheduled to b
130 stealthz: That big island between New Zealand & Madagascar.. made a splashy PR visit to the capital then on to the West coast to see how effective it was a
131 BigJKU: The P-8 should really represent a major leap in capability for anyone who buys it, particularly in the Pacific with its wide spaces. It will have a ma
132 bikerthai: Well, a 75 Toyota can probably do just as well as a 2010 Honda on my reuglar commute. Good luck trying to find spare parts for that 75 Toyota. bt
133 BigJKU: That is why I said Europe. A fair number of them have P-3's already. There will be a lot going to the boneyard from the US from which they could draw
134 bikerthai: And the replacement parts from the US frames will have how many cycles left in them when they are retired? You would think the US P-3 would have fewe
135 BigJKU: Yeah, the alternatives really don't impress me all that much. I think the A320 version is pie in the sky. Not nearly enough user base to make it happ
136 Eskimotail: HEADS UP http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE201 P8I #1 left BFI 08/02 2012 with full load of stores under is wings. Might be some great photos avai
137 ThePointblank: Somewhat, if they are already a P-3 operator. The P-8's current sensors and systems are mostly recycled or derived from the latest P-3 Blocks. Howeve
138 bikerthai: Right now, the most obvious increase in systems capabilities lies in the mission computing which is the natural result of using newer chips and proce
139 kanban: I started this thread about 2 1/2 years ago to track this plane remotely (having retired) and wish to thank all those who have kept it updated, especi
140 BigJKU: The big update to me is the ability of the P-8 to operate effectively in the Pacific much more so than the P-3 due to its ability to get out to a sta
141 Revelation: And thank you for starting it! I too am enjoying the thread. It's nice to see a military/aerospace project track right to what it's supposed to track
142 bikerthai: And more importantly, they have 2 commercial style lay flat seat for crew rest instead of the bunks. . . . it has a commercial style lav . . . and a
143 Revelation: Dare I ask what you get in the P-3?
144 bikerthai: Never been on a P-3. But from photos, it looks like a glorified "port-a-potty" with your standard toilet seat and a small sink. The P-8 lav is also a
145 Devilfish: Given what airlines are serving nowadays.....MREs may not be too bad a compromise.
146 flightsimer: Valiant shield is starting here within the next two weeks...
147 Eskimotail: LRIP 1-3 delivered to NAS Jacksonville on Friday. LRIP 1-4 progressing right behind it at Military Flight.
148 Revelation: Twitter brought me the following: Boeing wins $1.9 billion deal for U.S. surveillance planes which in part says: Glad to see the program is cruising r
149 bikerthai: Interesting article on the P-8 Vs the P-3. http://defense.aol.com/2012/10/02/na...-high-altitude-high-tech-barf-bag/ bt
150 bikerthai: India officially received their P-8I. http://india.nydailynews.com/newsart...aritime-patrol-aircraft-with-image The plane will be in Seattle for a whi
151 kanban: Thanks BT... good to have you over there checking. What's our total delivered now? You know a lot of people didn't believe the Indian planes would del
152 Eskimotail: YP/14 is next to deliver and is currently on the flight line at Military Flight. YP/17 just flew over the hill today to begin its I and C.O. process.
153 Revelation: Indeed. It's great to know there's now a flying tandoori oven!
154 Eskimotail: So old school. Actually equipped with full frig and convection oven.
155 bikerthai: P-8 update Fatigue testing has begun - surprising that fatigue testing has started so late. http://boeingnews.web.boeing.com/archive/2013/4915.html Fi
157 bikerthai: Want to see a 737 drop ordinance? http://www.boeing.com/Features/2013/04/bds_p8i_04_17_13.html Sit through the talking heads and you'll get some nice
158 Revelation: Awesome. Much better than it leaving blue juice everywhere! Personally, I hope it never gets used in anger, but it's still awesome tech.
160 STT757: There's been a major change in the P-8s basing plans, they will now be based at two locations (Whidbey Island and Jacksonville). Plans to base three s
161 dahawaiian: Although the Supplemental EIS is still not finished, it appears as though the Navy has already made the decision to pull the patrol squadrons out of
162 BigJKU: I think the key thing for the P-8 really should be its ability to deploy just about anywhere in a pinch. You should be able to do most major airframe
163 bikerthai: Could this mean that the US Navy will rely on the Australian P-8's and their bases more for Pacific support? After all, the Aussies will get the same
164 STT757: It means technically all the P-8 squadrons will be based at two locations, Jacksonville and Whidbey Island, however at least half the squadrons will
165 bikerthai: P-8I aircraft now in India. http://in.news.yahoo.com/indian-navy...nnaissance-aircraft-130037998.html "The Indian Navy Wednesday received the first of
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