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US Army Using UH-1Y In Afghanistan?  
User currently offlineAirRyan From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2532 posts, RR: 5
Posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 8070 times:

In the Feb. 15th issue of AvWeek they have a Q&A with Bell's new CEO, John Garrison who is a former US Army Ranger West Point grad with a Harvard MBA. They ask him how the H-1 program is going, and he begins by saying how "the Yankee (UH-1Y) is performing incredibly well in Afghanistan," and that "the US Army is using it for troop movement and in some attack roles."

My initial reaction was that this was just a typo on AvWeek's part, but maybe it was a goof on John Garrison's part?

Why in the world would the US Army who has H-60's and H-47's be relying on anything from the Marines to move their troops around in the high altitudes of AFG? Try as it may, the UH-1Y will never even be able to do all that an H-60 can. First off, I wouldn't think the Marines would have the time to haul the Army around, and second I wouldn't think the Army would want any part of using the Marine equipment/crews to boot?

[Edited 2010-02-17 14:14:43]

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User currently offlineHaveBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2098 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 7988 times:

Maybe he meant the Marines were using it.


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User currently offlineUH60FtRucker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7886 times:

Obvious misquote. He mixed the US Army with the USMC. The Army officially retired all H-1 models on active duty over a decade ago, and all those on guard duty over a year ago.

User currently offlinemechatnew From United States of America, joined May 2005, 101 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7880 times:

There are still a few UH-IHs flying with both active, and guard units.

User currently offlineUH60FtRucker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 7857 times:

Quoting mechatnew (Reply 3):
There are still a few UH-IHs flying with both active, and guard units.

Give me one.


User currently offlineArmy15P From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 7842 times:

Well Scrap (Flat) Iron at KOZR had them and where using them as of last month when a buddy of mine had a PL in an RT. In todays' day and age, he of course has iphone camera proof. I know that Rhode Island has officially stopped flying all of their's as well as New Hampshire. I believe they were some of the last states to be flying the old girl. I am actually the very first aviator to return to my unit with out ever having ridden in a flying huey. Trust me there were times where I was looking to PL to just be able to get the ride home, but it never worked out.

User currently offlineKCMike From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 537 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 7829 times:

I believe Hohenfels, Germany still has some in the OC/OPFOR role for the training going on there. They did not too long ago atleast, they may have recieve the LUH's by now.

Mike



Dustoff
User currently offlineUH60FtRucker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 7826 times:

Quoting Army15P (Reply 5):

Thanks Dan. I had a ride in one of those FlatIron birds when we PL'd many years ago, I wasn't aware that they still fly them.

But I was really looking for Mechatnew to give me at least one of these guard units, let alone an active unit!, that he speaks of. There are still a few old Huey's flying around for research, light support (ie: Rucker), but none of these are in active/guard units, and certainly none of these are deploying to Afghanistan!

---------------------

Just for those interested:

"Guard Retires UH-1 Huey After 50 Years of Service"
http://www.army.mil/-news/2009/10/09...-1-huey-after-50-years-of-service/

[Edited 2010-02-17 20:47:28]

User currently offlineKCMike From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 537 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 7811 times:

I remember getting a ride in the one white huey flat iron had after PL'ing out in an RT. Good Times.


Dustoff
User currently offlinemechatnew From United States of America, joined May 2005, 101 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7663 times:

The Mississippi NG has a least one UH-1H flying, also the active duty test unit at Holloman AFB had some last Oct.

[Edited 2010-02-18 05:45:55]

User currently offlineKCMike From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 537 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7553 times:

Yeap I just checked. April 2010 is when Hohenfels will start to get the LUH. So there is atleast 10 UH-1H left on active duty for a couple more months.


Dustoff
User currently offlinevenus6971 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1440 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7538 times:

The USAF still flys UH-1N's at ADW and at all their missile bases.


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User currently offlineKPDX From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2729 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 7460 times:

Fort Hood still flies 3 or 4 UH-1s around the base. I caught one a few weeks ago. Not sure if its a H model or not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcY0CcHn0uY

Interesting article along with it.
http://www.forthoodsentinel.com/story.php?id=3098



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User currently offlineUH60FtRucker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 7408 times:

I guess I should have been more specific. We were talking about the possibility of an Army UH-1 flying around Afghanistan, and when I asked for a guard/active unit with UH-1s... I thought it was understood that I was asking for a deployable line unit. Sorry for the confusion.

Quoting mechatnew (Reply 9):
The Mississippi NG has a least one UH-1H flying

The MNG had two UH-1Hs, but were replaced in 2009 with two LUH-72As. I looked and did not find anything stating that the UH-1s are still flying. Where is your info coming from?

Quoting mechatnew (Reply 9):
also the active duty test unit at Holloman AFB had some last Oct.
Quoting KCMike (Reply 10):
So there is atleast 10 UH-1H left on active duty for a couple more months.
Quoting KPDX (Reply 12):
Fort Hood still flies 3 or 4 UH-1s around the base.

...But none of these aircraft in test units, OPFOR units, or odd ball units are deployable line units, in either active or guard duty. There is no way ANY of these listed aircraft could have been seen flying around southern Afghanistan.

For US personnel, the only UH-1s flying in Afghanistan, belong to the USMC, USAF, Xe Services (blackwater)/CIA, etc.


User currently offlinemechatnew From United States of America, joined May 2005, 101 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 7400 times:

The 1108 AVCRAD at Gulfport-Biloxi RAP, had at least one late model, FY 1974, as of Jan. I know a guy in the unit.

User currently offlineHaveBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2098 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 7394 times:

Quoting KPDX (Reply 12):
Fort Hood still flies 3 or 4 UH-1s around the base. I caught one a few weeks ago. Not sure if its a H model or not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcY0CcHn0uY

Interesting article along with it.
http://www.forthoodsentinel.com/stor...=3098

That article was interesting! Nice that they fly the ones given to them to scrap until the 150 hours for mandatory maintanance is up... get every lil bit you can out of them before they have to... sadly.. go.

I was born at Ft. Rucker and have lots of time riding in Hueys (civilian with Dad flying) so that will always be the helicopter dearest to my heart. Sad that they are around less and less but they won't be gone forever for a long time.



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User currently offlineUH60FtRucker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 7348 times:

Can an aircraft actually be assigned to an AVCRAD??? It's a depot level support facility, so wouldn't the facility simply be signed for the property temporarily?

[Edited 2010-02-18 18:14:54]

User currently offlineUH60FtRucker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 7341 times:

Quoting mechatnew (Reply 14):
The 1108 AVCRAD at Gulfport-Biloxi RAP, had at least one late model, FY 1974, as of Jan. I know a guy in the unit.

After a little research:

http://mscoast.org/in-the-news/aviation-2013/

" But the AVCRAD is saying goodbye to one helicopter model that has been a mainstay for the U.S. military. In September the UH-1 Iroquois was retired from the Army inventory. To mark the event, the 1108th AVCRAD scheduled a ceremony in early October 2009 to formally retire the Huey and pay tribute to the Mississippi pilots and crew who flew the helicopter for the Army National Guard."

So I'm doubtful there is any remote possibility that some obscure UH-1 from the Mississippi AVCRAD could have been flying around southern Afghanistan.


User currently offlineKCMike From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 537 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 7317 times:

I suppose the topic was a bit strayed from. Its pretty clear that no standard army aviation assets or modern CAB's have the UH1. Its interesting to hear where the last hueys are still operating at. Good thread

mike



Dustoff
User currently offlineJohnM From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 345 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 7157 times:

The UH-1H and V have not been deployable in the Army for many, many years. While in use CONUS and places like Hohenfels, Germany (CMTC), the parts and troops to fly and maintain them existed only in the ARNG and a few isolated AD units. My old ARNG unit the saying was mall security would deploy before us, since we had UH-1s. When we got UH-60s, we were gone ASAP.

User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 13968 posts, RR: 63
Reply 20, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6940 times:

AFAIK, the Geramn Army uses UH-1Ds in Afghanistan (together with CH-53Gs). I had my first and so far only flight in a helicopter in a Bundeswehr UH-1D back when I was 12 years old. The nickname for these choppers in Germany is "Teppichklopfer" (Carpet beater) due to the sound they make.

Jan


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16822 posts, RR: 51
Reply 21, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6818 times:

According to Combat Aircraft magazine's 2009 US Army airpower briefing the Army had in their inventory 123 UH-1H/V's, none in CAB's, TAB's or other deployable units. The Units that still operate the UH-1s (as of October 2009) are;

. US Army Air Ambulance detachment Yakima Training Center, Washington
. CARA Aviation section Phillips AAF Aberdeen Proving Ground, Maryland
. 5th aviation battalion (Provisional) JRTC Polk AAF, Fort Polk, Louisiana
. Corps Support Battalion NTC Fort Irwin/ Barstow Dagget AHP, California
. ABNSOTD Aviation branch Simmons AAF, Fort Bragg, North Carolina
. Flight test directorate Cairns AAF, Fort Rucker, Alabama
. Redstone AAF, (ATTC) Redstone Arsenal , Alabama
. Range Operations Directorate (WSMR) Holloman AFB, New Mexico
. Yuma Proving Ground Air operations Department Laguna AAF, Yuma, Arizona
. 21st Cavalry Brigade (Air Combat) HHT/ 21st CAV Hood AAF, Fort Hood, Texas
. Redstone Arsenal (AMCOM) Alabama
. Lakehurst NAES, NJ 12WD Flight Activity (CERDEC)
. NVESD Air Systems division Davison AAF, Fort Belvoir, Virginia
. Aviation Applied Technology Directorate (AMRDEC) Felker AAF, Fort Eustis, Virginia
. 110th Aviation Brigade (training) 1-223rd AVN Cairns AAF, Fort Rucker, Alabama
. US Army Europe JMRC Aviation Detachment Hohenfels, Germany (transitioning to UH-72 in FY '10)
. US Army Space and Missile Defense Command Aviation Detachment Bucholz AAF, Kwajalein Atoll



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