Though other systems have taken on the role in Afghanistan, UAV's, Sentinel R.1's, Sea King ASc.7's, there will be for 24 months no means to conduct long range maritime patrol ops around the UK coasts and it's busy shipping lanes.
The RAF will use C-130's (already heavily used in the transport role) and Merlin helicopters operated by the RN, the latter for ASW the formed for SAR support.
These Herks are not fitted out like US Coast Guard examples though, so they are banking on no major maritime incidents where the Nimrod has been so vital in it's 40 year life.
The retirement was brought forward a year and the MRA.4 introduction put back 12 months, to save money, (just after £16 million was spent of the Nimrod safety mods after the example was lost in Afghanistan in 2006).
Not quite the end of the Nimrod legacy airframe story though, the R.1 ELINT aircraft have another year before they are retired, before a 36 month gap whilst the RAF's own Rivet Joint examples are prepared, with (presumably) a similar standard of equipment fit and CFM-56 engines.
This gap will be, it is said, filled by RAF personnel on USAF examples, with 'operational sovereignty' (I doubt it, nothing against the USAF but in this instance it is their aircraft for those 3 years).
Not a good day.
There is having priority on Afghanistan, understandably, but this should only be taken so far.
Mind you, had the top brass of the RAF been smarter, they could have used the recent diplomatic row with Argentina, to base some Nimrods down in the Falklands, thus requiring a Nimrod MR.2 presence to be retained at home too.
Too busy trying to get other services programs cancelled maybe?
sasd209 From British Indian Ocean Territory, joined Oct 2007, 638 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5620 times:
This may sound ignorant, so I apologise in advance..
How active were the Nimrod squadrons in let's say, patrolling the North Sea and around the Isles? Without getting into anything classified or secret, did they perform daily patrols, 24/7 patrols, or just 'as needed'. I should have no idea what is an accepted practice when patrolling ones waters, and I am curious. I see that the Merlins and Hercules A/C will be 'filling in' so to say for the next 2 years..... are they really capable of conducting the missions the Nimrods did?
GDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 12948 posts, RR: 79 Reply 3, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5460 times:
Quoting L-188 (Reply 1): You would think if the British asked nicely we could find some P-3 or S-3 airframes in Arizona for lease.
Would cost money, an unknown type in RAF service.
(Now if there were a few spare USCG Herk's available - they probably would not have taken them up either! Since that's admitting a gap is more serious than claimed).
sasd209, while of course the primary role, hunting Russian subs, which the aircraft was built for, has hugely diminished, the role in more general maritime patrol was a major tasking for the force, with it's sensors, command and control, ability to drop SAR gear like rafts.
L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29509 posts, RR: 59 Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5287 times:
Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 4):
Many people forget that the Nimrod is based of the old DeHavilland Comet - a 60+ year-old design. Is there any large plane in the world that was in service for that long?
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GDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 12948 posts, RR: 79 Reply 7, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5254 times:
The Comet's first flight (in the original prototype of the Comet 1) was in 1949, before the other types mentioned.
Though it was really the grandfather of the Nimrod, the Comet 4 being the father.
Of course the Nimrod MRA.4 is so heavily modified from the MR.2, only the fuselage pressure shell being retained, each example getting new serial numbers, that is a new generation rather than a modification/upgrade.
So the Comet 1 is the great grandfather?
MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4210 posts, RR: 36 Reply 12, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3914 times:
I heared rumors the UK government wanted to scrap the MRA4 program too in the new budget cuts announced by the new Carmeron governement. But I can't find anything on the net or here on the forum, can anyone comment on that?
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