KC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12293 posts, RR: 51 Posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 12883 times:
Boeing announced their F-15SE Silent Eagle, dubbed the F-15E1 made its first flight yesterday. The flight lasted abour 80 minutes and included opening the weapons bay door on the left CFT. No missiles or weapons were lanched or released. The flight was made from Boeing's STL facility, and will continue with a deployment to a weapons test range in a few weeks.
sphealey From United States of America, joined May 2005, 379 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 12723 times:
> The flight lasted abour 80 minutes and included opening the weapons bay
> door on the left CFT. No missiles or weapons were lanched or released.
Whew - just barely avoided another "Escape from New York" situation!
(for those who don't get the reference, the cheesy 1980s action movie "Escape from New York" was filmed in the old downtown St. Louis industrial district - because the director and special effects guys were able to burn and blow up large-scale buildings at very low cost!)
Oroka From Canada, joined Dec 2006, 917 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12452 times:
Boeing decided to get the conformal weapon bay and other stealth features completed and tested first, then work on the canted vert stabs if there is interest in it.
I think it would be an important feature because if you are going up against the F-35 for sales, you dont want the same old F-15 with something strapped to it. The canted stabs will make the SE stand out from the legacy F-15s on a flight line.
GST From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 942 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 12311 times:
Quoting Oroka (Reply 4): The canted stabs will make the SE stand out from the legacy F-15s on a flight line.
And not to mention that a large portion of the F-15 classic's (enormous) non-frontal radar cross section was due to the vertical fins, if they are canted even a moderate amount this is drastically reduced. I suspect that it will be a required feature to make the aircraft competitive if "stealth" is still being used as a selling point.
Quote: "CORRECTION: Boeing says the F-15SE flight test aircraft was never intended to have canted tails, nor has the production configuration been settled."
.....but could be a customer option per the link in Reply 2.....
Quote: "Depending on the customer's desires, the F-15SE also may include other upgrades, including a panorama cockpit display, a BAE Systems digital electronic warfare system (DEWS) and tail fins canted outward by 15º."
Quick implementation and demonstration of those, and some masking of the intakes will be vital in deflecting the F-35's appeal - and in convincing the RoKAF to select it for KF-X3.
Quote: "3. Procuring new upgraded variants of legacy aircraft such as the F-16 and F-15
4. A combination of options 2 and 3
The fact that the USAF has even considered resuming F-16 and F-15 orders could be very significant. Two decades of USAF leaders have consistently upheld the all-stealth rule for combat aircraft.
The USAF reports, however, do not endorse the non-stealth procurement option, according to the GAO. Modernizing and extending the service life of 300 F-16s could provide the same capability as buying new jets, but at 10-15% of the cost, GAO says."