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F-15SE Makes First Flight  
User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12065 posts, RR: 52
Posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 10681 times:

Boeing announced their F-15SE Silent Eagle, dubbed the F-15E1 made its first flight yesterday. The flight lasted abour 80 minutes and included opening the weapons bay door on the left CFT. No missiles or weapons were lanched or released. The flight was made from Boeing's STL facility, and will continue with a deployment to a weapons test range in a few weeks.

http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=13&item=1156

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User currently offlinesphealey From United States of America, joined May 2005, 375 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 10521 times:

> The flight lasted abour 80 minutes and included opening the weapons bay
> door on the left CFT. No missiles or weapons were lanched or released.

Whew - just barely avoided another "Escape from New York" situation!

sPh

(for those who don't get the reference, the cheesy 1980s action movie "Escape from New York" was filmed in the old downtown St. Louis industrial district - because the director and special effects guys were able to burn and blow up large-scale buildings at very low cost!)


User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4675 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 10515 times:

Just to clarify, it was just a demonstrator that tested the conformal weapons bay. No canted tail fins or other RCS-reducing features have been installed yet:

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...ts-with-export-license-flight.html



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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12065 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 10462 times:

Quoting A342 (Reply 2):
Just to clarify, it was just a demonstrator that tested the conformal weapons bay. No canted tail fins or other RCS-reducing features have been installed yet:

I didn't write that, and you are right, I should have.....me bad.    But I thought Boeing decided against the canted tails on the F-15SE a few months ago.


User currently offlineOroka From Canada, joined Dec 2006, 906 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 10250 times:

Boeing decided to get the conformal weapon bay and other stealth features completed and tested first, then work on the canted vert stabs if there is interest in it.

I think it would be an important feature because if you are going up against the F-35 for sales, you dont want the same old F-15 with something strapped to it. The canted stabs will make the SE stand out from the legacy F-15s on a flight line.


User currently offlineGST From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 930 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 10109 times:

Quoting Oroka (Reply 4):
The canted stabs will make the SE stand out from the legacy F-15s on a flight line.

And not to mention that a large portion of the F-15 classic's (enormous) non-frontal radar cross section was due to the vertical fins, if they are canted even a moderate amount this is drastically reduced. I suspect that it will be a required feature to make the aircraft competitive if "stealth" is still being used as a selling point.

EDIT: Pathetic spelling and grammar.

[Edited 2010-07-11 04:11:13]

User currently offlineDEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4696 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 9944 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 3):
But I thought Boeing decided against the canted tails on the F-15SE a few months ago.
Quoting Oroka (Reply 4):
Boeing decided to get the conformal weapon bay and other stealth features completed and tested first, then work on the canted vert stabs if there is interest in it.

Boeing clarified that canted fins were not "intended" to be on their flight test aircraft.....

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...r-f-15-silent-eagle-corrected.html

Quote:
"CORRECTION: Boeing says the F-15SE flight test aircraft was never intended to have canted tails, nor has the production configuration been settled."


.....but could be a customer option per the link in Reply 2.....

Quote:
"Depending on the customer's desires, the F-15SE also may include other upgrades, including a panorama cockpit display, a BAE Systems digital electronic warfare system (DEWS) and tail fins canted outward by 15º."


Quick implementation and demonstration of those, and some masking of the intakes will be vital in deflecting the F-35's appeal - and in convincing the RoKAF to select it for KF-X3.



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User currently offlineShmertspionem From India, joined Aug 2006, 451 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 9215 times:

here are some high res images of the flight - since u have to register at the Boeing sight

http://img.blog.yahoo.co.kr/ybi/1/24/56/shinecommerce/folder/18/img_18_29305_2?1279104122.jpg
http://img.blog.yahoo.co.kr/ybi/1/24/56/shinecommerce/folder/18/img_18_29305_0?1279104122.jpg
http://img.blog.yahoo.co.kr/ybi/1/24/56/shinecommerce/folder/18/img_18_29305_1?1279104122.jpg



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User currently offlineSP90 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 388 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 9 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 8430 times:

Interesting...so they plan to use part of the internal volume of the CFT for weapon storage. So how much will be left for fuel? It looks like only a single AMRAAM will fit in there.

[Edited 2010-07-26 17:19:42]

User currently offlineOroka From Canada, joined Dec 2006, 906 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 9 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 8101 times:

No fuel, just ordinance. The CFT can be removed and replaced with a standard CFT in about 3 hours IIRC.

User currently offlinewvsuperhornet From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 7739 times:

Nice I wish the US would buy some and get off this the F-35 will solve everything kick

User currently offlineDEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4696 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 7168 times:

Quoting wvsuperhornet (Reply 10):
Nice I wish the US would buy some and get off this the F-35 will solve everything kick

Pray that the "Powers That Be" grant your wish.....

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/th...saf-considers-new-f-15s-and-f.html

Quote:
"3. Procuring new upgraded variants of legacy aircraft such as the F-16 and F-15
4. A combination of options 2 and 3

The fact that the USAF has even considered resuming F-16 and F-15 orders could be very significant. Two decades of USAF leaders have consistently upheld the all-stealth rule for combat aircraft.

The USAF reports, however, do not endorse the non-stealth procurement option, according to the GAO. Modernizing and extending the service life of 300 F-16s could provide the same capability as buying new jets, but at 10-15% of the cost, GAO says."



.http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/8792/f16block60uaeci2.jpg


I hope they would adopt the more pragmatic approach.   

[Edited 2010-08-12 08:42:28]


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User currently offlineSpacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2866 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 7119 times:

AFM this month reports that the F-15SE has successfully fired an inert AMRAAM from the CWB. No info on date


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User currently offlineDEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4696 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 7061 times:

Quoting Spacepope (Reply 12):
No info on date

It was on the 14th last month.....

http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=1328

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...e-from-internal-bay-for-first.html



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