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BAE Unveils Taranis Stealth Ucav  
User currently offlineShmertspionem From India, joined Aug 2006, 453 posts, RR: 1
Posted (4 years 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 7471 times:

carrying on from the phantom ray thread - this one looks similar (like the neuron and skat as well)

Full article here
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...s-continent.html?ito=feeds-newsxml




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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10890 posts, RR: 37
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7349 times:

I saw the article yesterday. This is an odd looking aircraft.

Why that "triangle"? What is it? Why the pink colour?

This will be flown from the ground I suppose? By computers maybe, or by humans.
If a "black" aircraft why is it advertised and not made totally secret?



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15719 posts, RR: 26
Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7330 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 1):
Why that "triangle"?

The odd angles are great for stealth.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 1):
What is it?

It is a UCAV that can do...things. Surveillance and it can probably carry weapons as well.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 1):
By computers maybe, or by humans.

Most UAVs (and all when firing weapons) are controlled remotely by people, though some can perform at least some of their mission autonomously.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 1):
Why the pink colour?

That appears to be high visibility markings or perhaps covers on the gear doors that may need to be removed for flight, and presumably also the radar testing it is pictured performing (although that, like most such pictures, is almost certainly staged by PR people).

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 1):
If a "black" aircraft why is it advertised and not made totally secret?

Not all of the things developed secretly are operated that way.

Either way, it appears that there will be an interesting UAV competition with the RQ-170 (Beast of Kandahar), Phantom Ray, and Taranis.



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User currently offlineShmertspionem From India, joined Aug 2006, 453 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7281 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 1):
Why the pink colour?

military aircraft frequently have their engines sheathed when not in use - to prevent dust accumulation i suppose -- why the preference for red/pink i dunno cus it seems to be standard amongst both NATO and Russians.

sorry these were the best pics i could dig up

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1XZMX_E0z5c/SxXHSLwLkPI/AAAAAAAABqw/pZ7_HX0sYIM/s1600/2008-12-30-KEDATANGAN-SUKHO.jpg
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m207/moche_/Su-27%20SMK/TN_0690.jpg?1279024666

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 1):
What is it?

i assume you meant the triangle? that's the air inlet for the engine - the dassault neuron while similar semi-sheaths its inlet, and the MiG skat has a square inlet with a V shield

http://www.flightglobal.com/airspace/photos/paris_air_show/images/31310/dassault-neuron-paris-air-show-2009.jpg




At any rate its good to see Britain develop something on its own again - like the good old days - instead of JV's and Foreign purchases.

[Edited 2010-07-13 06:17:50]


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User currently offlinebikerthai From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 2070 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 7114 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 2):
Most UAVs (and all when firing weapons) are controlled remotely by people, though some can perform at least some of their mission autonomously.

For the most part the "control" part is the human telling the UAV where to go. The actual mechanics of "flying" is done by the machine itself. Thus you can have one operator "managing" several UAVs.

While the "physical/structural" aspect of these UAV are interesting, the development of the control laws for these UAV (how to dog fight and how to do aerial refueling - really difficult tasks) will dictate on how effectively these machine can be deployed.

bikerthai



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User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13169 posts, RR: 78
Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 6973 times:

IMHO Taranis should form the basis of an operational UCAV, if need be, as a national project.
To, post 2020, replace the then remaining RAF Tornado GR.4's.

BAE have already got a prop driven one, Mantis, on trials, this should be the lower end of a hi-low mix to replace some of the GR.4's in the 2015-2020 period.


User currently offlineGPHOTO From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 829 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 6968 times:
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Quoting Shmertspionem (Reply 3):
why the preference for red/pink i dunno cus it seems to be standard amongst both NATO and Russians.

The intention is for high visibility on items that must be removed before use. Red stands out and is a universal 'stop' or 'danger' colour. It is therefore a natural choice for this role.

I suppose yellow or yellow/black wasp stripes might also be colours that could be used. The effect of red would be lost if your aircraft colour scheme is red.....

I don't know if there are any national or international standards for such items - anyone know?

Best regards,

Jim



Erm, is this thing on?
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10890 posts, RR: 37
Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 6953 times:

Thank you for your answers.

Today I see that Boeing are unveiling a new hydrogen-powered high altitude unmanned "Phantom Eye" spy plane that can stay up in the air during 4 days without "refueling".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10617075

The company explained in a statement that Phantom Eye was "powered by two 2.3 litre, four-cylinder engines that provide 150 horsepower each".
It is also very large, with a 46m (150ft) wingspan.
"It isn't built for stealth - it's built for endurance," Mr Haddox told BBC News.

 Wow!

Some day in the near future all planes will be flying without pilots. It seems that they are leaning toward unmanned planes more and more.



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User currently offlineSeJoWa From United States of America, joined May 2006, 346 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 6923 times:

Quoting Shmertspionem (Reply 3):
At any rate its good to see Britain develop something on its own again - like the good old days - instead of JV's and Foreign purchases.

More friendly competition is good news!

This is a very clean design.


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15719 posts, RR: 26
Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6878 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 7):
Some day in the near future all planes will be flying without pilots.

That probably depends on your definition of "near future." It will be decades before pilots can be entirely eradicated. And don't forget that a lot of UAVs may not replace manned aircraft at all, but rather do jobs that are impractical for manned aircraft.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 7):
"It isn't built for stealth - it's built for endurance," Mr Haddox told BBC News

Stealth isn't necessary for everything. Such a craft would work very well for monitoring weather or shipping or protecting our borders.



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