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CF-18 Fighter Jet Crash At Lethbridge, Alberta  
User currently offlinebonusonus From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 403 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 15026 times:

Very preliminary report so far. Only news story I could find was this:

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/sto...irshow-military-plane-alberta.html

Apparently the pilot was able to eject.

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User currently offlineCYQL From Canada, joined Sep 2006, 86 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 15075 times:

Pilot was practicing the cobra maneuver, there was a loud bang, pilot ejected and plane crashed right at the intersection of the runways.

Airport is closed until arrival of investigators from CFB Cold Lake.


User currently offlinerikkus67 From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 1646 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 15057 times:

Sounds like with where it came down, it may affect the entire airshow, and regular traffic for that matter! Any word on whether the show will continue?


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User currently offlineCYQL From Canada, joined Sep 2006, 86 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 15011 times:

I don't think any decision can be made until the Flight Safety and MOT investigators arrive.

Runway 12-30 is closed for static display 05-23 is blocked at the intersection.


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12148 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 15008 times:

I hope the pilot is uninjured.

User currently offlineKPDX From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2750 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 15010 times:

From Airshowbuzz.com:

This is what we know...

Captain Brian "Boozer" Bews, the CF-18 Hornet demonstration pilot for the Canadian Forces, was performing a high alpha pass when the aircraft began to yaw right. At low speed, low altitude, he knew he didn't have many options so ejected. He has been transported to a local hospital. Credible ICAS members report he was conscious and did not have any injuries beyond lower back pain.


Owww too bad. Engine failure perhaps?



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User currently offlineScarletHarlot From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 4673 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 14978 times:

Glad the pilot is okay and nobody on the ground was injured. Is this the gorgeously-painted Hornet? The CBC article refers to it being an airshow special.


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User currently offlineCYQL From Canada, joined Sep 2006, 86 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 14971 times:

http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20100723/cf18-crashes-100723/

Picture of wreckage and file video footage.

More pics

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/cr...bridge/3315226/story.html?tab=PHOT

[Edited 2010-07-23 14:28:29]

User currently offlineKPDX From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2750 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 14953 times:

Quoting ScarletHarlot (Reply 6):
Is this the gorgeously-painted Hornet?

Yes it was, unfortunately.



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User currently offlineCYQL From Canada, joined Sep 2006, 86 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 14923 times:

Actual video of crash and crash site.

http://www.globallethbridge.com/figh...shes+Lethbridge/3315229/story.html


User currently offlineScarletHarlot From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 4673 posts, RR: 56
Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 14896 times:

Quoting CYQL (Reply 9):
Actual video of crash and crash site.

What irony of the music playing as the plane crashed...Stayin' Alive. Glad the pilot did. That was very scary.



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User currently offlinemoose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2323 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 14851 times:

Glad to hear "Boozer" is alright - heard elsewhere that he has already been released from the hospital, but don't have confirmation on that.

I got to meet him, and see him perform, at FRG during the Jones Beach Air Show over Memorial Day weekend. Really nice guy, and a great stick. He knew we were shooting from the old control tower next to the runway, so he put on a good show for us...

http://www.moose135photography.com/Airplanes/Air-Shows/Jones-Beach-Air-Show-2010/JM20100530FRGAirshow009/884031074_3znSW-L.jpg

http://www.moose135photography.com/Airplanes/Air-Shows/Jones-Beach-Air-Show-2010/JM20100530FRGAirshow004/884030626_gDbkT-L.jpg

And after returning from the beach:
http://www.moose135photography.com/Airplanes/Air-Shows/Jones-Beach-Air-Show-2010/JM20100529HUTS003/883224855_ire7H-L.jpg



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User currently offlineCYQL From Canada, joined Sep 2006, 86 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 14632 times:

Nice pictures Moose135.

Investigators from Cold Lake arrived in a CH-146 Griffon.

Runway was reopened about 1800 local.

Airshow is a go, but no CF-18 flight.

C-17 arrived about 2130.


User currently offlineyfbflyer From Canada, joined Sep 2006, 299 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 14618 times:

Some more amazing pictures of the crash as it happened. I'll post the link since i am not familar with the rules regarding posting pics.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...-in-alberta/article1649943/#photos
You will need to click on the photo tab

[Edited 2010-07-23 21:44:56]

User currently offlineCYQL From Canada, joined Sep 2006, 86 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 14560 times:

The reason there are so many good photo's and video's of the crash is because it happened during a press photo op hosted by the airshow comittee.

RIP CF-18 188738


User currently onlineGPHOTO From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 829 posts, RR: 24
Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 14545 times:
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Quoting yfbflyer (Reply 13):
Some more amazing pictures of the crash as it happened. I'll post the link since i am not familar with the rules regarding posting pics.

You did it correctly.

Glad the pilot and all on the ground are ok. That's always the most important thing.

In the first picture of that series (1 of 7) you can see that the engine exhaust nozzles are in different configurations, one seems fully open, the other in it's most closed position. Indicative of engine problem? Losing power in a high alpha pass is no fun.

It wasn't possible to pick up any change in engine noise from the video because the Gibb brothers were singing away, though the double bangs of the canopy being jettisoned and the ejector seat firing are clearly audible.

Best regards,

Jim



Erm, is this thing on?
User currently offlineVenus6971 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 14179 times:

Looking at those pictures it appears that the right engine was not putting out any thrust or flamed out as well. At initial impact the left engine was still turning with the huge fire ball coming out the exhaust. I'm wondering if this F-18 has the 80 secend inverted fuel pump like the Blue Angel birds do. Standard F-18's have 10 sec's of inverted ops with the fuel pump.


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User currently offlineTheSonntag From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 3595 posts, RR: 29
Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 14159 times:

Very spectacular. What ejection seat do they use? It seems the guys who developed it deserve a beer.

User currently offlineVenus6971 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 14033 times:

Quoting GPHOTO (Reply 15):
In the first picture of that series (1 of 7) you can see that the engine exhaust nozzles are in different configurations, one seems fully open, the other in it's most closed position. Indicative of engine problem? Losing power in a high alpha pass is no fun.

Another possibility was that to recover from slow speed manuevers he lit burners but the rt one stayed at dry thrust which is 11000 LBF compared to 17700 lbf in augmentation on the left side which the Full Authority Digital Engine Control (FADEC) system did not have the airspeed over the wing to recover from it, if you look at the impact picture you see the torch out the left engine, maybe thats the ab still lit with no airflow causing that with fuel just being dumped into the ab section Engine problems at high angle of attack equals a bad day.



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User currently offlineCYQL From Canada, joined Sep 2006, 86 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 14009 times:

Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 17):
What ejection seat do they use?

Martin Baker Mk.10S

http://www.ejection-history.org.uk/A...aft_by_Type/CF-18/cf_18_hornet.htm


User currently offlineHaveBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2109 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 13847 times:

Yeah when I first saw this posted on another forum the first thing I thought was that the #2 engine probably quit during the Hi Alpha pass. Looks like he tried full left rudder but to no avail and punched out. Thankfully he is okay.


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User currently offlineKnid From New Zealand, joined Aug 2005, 224 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 13807 times:

Quoting GPHOTO (Reply 15):
In the first picture of that series (1 of 7) you can see that the engine exhaust nozzles are in different configurations, one seems fully open, the other in it's most closed position. Indicative of engine problem? Losing power in a high alpha pass is no fun.

The nozzles dilate from open at idle to closed at MIL and then they open again in burner.

From the video the roll to the right is indicative of asymmetric thrust, my moneys on a burner blowout. Regardless of the cause a low altitude, high alpha pass on one engine will result in a fairly displeasing landing for both pilot and aircraft. Good to see he got out, albeit somewhat shorter.


User currently offlineUSAir1489 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 13631 times:

So glad to hear Boozer got out. I met him at Jones Beach this year and he definitely was a great guy to talk to and shoot the breeze with. Here's his demos from that show along with one of my favorite CF-18 videos...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zril_JB5NI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnscqDlkfqo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UlyWtGPjaM



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User currently offlineStratofortress From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 178 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 12721 times:

Are we suspecting that he commanded AB but the right one failed to light (closed nozzle) while the left one came on (open nozzle) therefore flipping the plane over.


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User currently offlineHaveBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2109 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 12699 times:

Quoting Stratofortress (Reply 23):
Are we suspecting that he commanded AB but the right one failed to light (closed nozzle) while the left one came on (open nozzle) therefore flipping the plane over.

Some people are. I disagree, I think he simply was doing the Hi Alpha pass, lost power on the #2 engine, the plane immediately started an uncommanded right roll, you can see him using full left rudder (to no avail) on some videos of the crash, he then punches out.

Now he may have firewalled both throttles when this started happening but I have not seen any burner coming out of the #1 engine so it may have not had time or he may have not wanted to exascerbate the already very asymetrical thrust situation.

Just my opinion.



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25 Post contains links MD-90 : Some excellent pictures here.
26 Post contains links CYQL : http://www.lethbridgeherald.com/content/view/213455/110/ Airshow attendance up ten percent. Boomer still in hospital, but due for release soon. The Ma
27 Post contains links ScarletHarlot : http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/sto...-bews-pilot-statement-alberta.html "Martin Baker is my new best friend!" said Capt. Brian Bews He has compressi
28 CYQL : Driving home today I noticed that the wreckage has been picked up, and probably transported back to Cold Lake. I am sure the investigation is centered
29 Galaxy5007 : I have to agree; I think the number 2 engine malfunctioned and when the plane hit the ground it FODed out the #1 engine causing the flames to shoot o
30 muhamed : Sorry for my ignorance, but I didn't know any model of the F18 could do a Pugachev Cobra. I know it has thrust vectoring but the thing about the Cobr
31 HaveBlue : That poster was completely wrong, the F-18 can not do a Pugachev Cobra. Patently false statement. And no aircraft that can do it enters it that low a
32 Post contains links CYQL : Sorry for my ignorance, but I mistakenly associated the high alpha maneuver with the cobra. Looks like they cancelled the CF-18 demo for the rest of
33 Post contains links Larshjort : The pictures look absolutely stunning and I'm glad to hear the pilot is okay The Saab Draken can do a swedish cobra, go to 1:50 http://www.youtube.com
34 Post contains links spudh : IMHO the Draken was one of the greatest and underestimated fighters ever to fly, that thing was dreamt up in the late 40's and it still looks futuris
35 muhamed : I see, so the F18 cannot do a cobra. I was wondering how it could do it looking at the engine build. Thanks for the update.
36 spudh : I think the F18 is physically capable of doing a high alpha cobra type manoeuvre, the YF-17 certainly was and performed it many times long before Pug
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