varigb707 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1219 posts, RR: 1 Posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 22134 times:
So it's saturday morning and i am watching paint dry, when i thought about that?
Can anyone buy an old used fighter jet? Provided it has all its guns and whatnot disabled.
FYI : i am not planning on buying one. Just curious...
Fly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 22150 times:
Quoting varigb707 (Thread starter): Can anyone buy an old used fighter jet? Provided it has all its guns and whatnot disabled.
FYI : i am not planning on buying one. Just curious...
For the most part yes. I've never seen a private currently active fighters like F-15s or F-16s for example but I've seen private F-4s, MiGs, F-86, L29s and others. There were a few old fighters at the airport I learned to fly in. Obviously all weapon systems are disabled and they are prohibited from breaking the sound barrier, at least over populated areas without permission.
Maverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 4744 posts, RR: 6 Reply 3, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 22119 times:
Someone a few years ago sold an F-18 on Ebay. It wasn't airworthy, but all the parts to make it so were there. The seller did get a visit from the FBI, who determined that it was legit.
474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 10 Reply 4, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 22037 times:
Quoting dxing (Reply 2): When we were out a Palmdale earlier this year there were 3 F-100's up for sale. Two for parts and one was flyable.
photopilot From Cuba, joined Jul 2002, 2439 posts, RR: 20 Reply 5, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 22016 times:
There used to be a F-104 Starfighter (2 seater version) privately owned out at Williams Gateway east of Phoenix. You could buy rides in the rear seat for a price. Beyond my budget though. The guy who owned it took people up to help defray the costs of flying and maintaining it.
rfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 6140 posts, RR: 25 Reply 7, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 22003 times:
There is a military surplus store on the I-30 service road west of Texarkana. Out front sits an Aardvark (F-111). For many years there was an F-105.
I stopped by there once in the 90s, and the owner told me he buys an aircraft for salvage from DMA and has it trucked to Texas. Then he lets it sit out front until the USAF complains and he scraps the bird. And buys another. Takes about 10-15 years per aircraft, and they make great advertising.
And by waiting so long, usually the increase in scrap metal prices pays for the transportation costs.
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HaveBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2069 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 21785 times:
Adding to the list of ex fighters already mentioned, there is also a few civilian F-104 Starfighters, which I have had the pleasure to have seen many times. They are based out of Clearwater, FL. Collins Foundation also has an F-105 that either is or will be airworthy soon. Collins also has the F-4 Phantom. I've also seen privately owned and flown Panthers, Cougars, MiG-15's, MiG-17's, L-29's, L-39's, there are civilian Saab Drakens and T-38 Talons.
Spacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2735 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 21699 times:
Don't forget the two private SU-27s based out of Rockford, IL.
Also there are private companies that fly fighters to train the military (DACM, targets for EW, naval surface ship targets), I've seen Kfirs, A-4s, Hunters and Alphaets flown by these companies recently.
TGIF From Sweden, joined Apr 2008, 273 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 21540 times:
Quoting varigb707 (Thread starter): So it's saturday morning and i am watching paint dry, when i thought about that?
Can anyone buy an old used fighter jet? Provided it has all its guns and whatnot disabled.
FYI : i am not planning on buying one. Just curious...
Too bad you're not shopping for one. Otherwise I'd recommend you this fine piece of Swedish aviation history:
KC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 11705 posts, RR: 52 Reply 17, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 21495 times:
Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 7): There is a military surplus store on the I-30 service road west of Texarkana. Out front sits an Aardvark (F-111). For many years there was an F-105.
IIRC, that is actually a FB-111A (also called the F-111G).
The flyable Collins F-4 is an F-4D. I believe they also fly a F-100F, too.
There are a few A-4s that are in private hands and flyable, too.
Doesn't Red Bull also have a Mig-15?
I know they are not jet fighters, but don't forget the many P-51s, P-40s, P-38s, P-47s, and F4Us flying around.
Also not fighters, but there are a few T-38s, T-37s, and T-2s in private hands.
planenut767 From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 59 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 21468 times:
Hello everyone. I figure this might be a good place to ask since everyone is talking about surplus military jets. Last year when I went out to the RDG for their airshow I saw about four SU-25's, in various states of assembly, parked outside of a hangar. I wanted to see if anyone had any info on them.
sovietjet From Bulgaria, joined Mar 2003, 2339 posts, RR: 14 Reply 19, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 21371 times:
Quoting Spacepope (Reply 12): Don't forget the two private SU-27s based out of Rockford, IL.
They are not in Rockford anymore. I saw them do their test flights for certification earlier this year but they haven't flown since and were sold sometime in July. The company wouldn't say who they were sold to so it's a mystery for now. There's rumors that they went to the desert to fly as aggressors for the USAF.
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 17): The flyable Collins F-4 is an F-4D. I believe they also fly a F-100F, too
They fly an F-4D but not the F-100 yet. There's only one airworthy F-100 and it is this one.
Quoting planenut767 (Reply 18): Hello everyone. I figure this might be a good place to ask since everyone is talking about surplus military jets. Last year when I went out to the RDG for their airshow I saw about four SU-25's, in various states of assembly, parked outside of a hangar. I wanted to see if anyone had any info on them.
One of them is registered N347DE. Registered in Delaware and owned by Dave Cannavo AFAIK. The other three might be either for spares or for future flying.
Cold War Air Museum is getting a Mig-23 airworthy as well. And there is also one in Delaware flying. I believe the Delaware one was brought in by the same guy with the Su-25s.
planenut767 From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 59 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 21334 times:
Quoting sovietjet (Reply 19): There's only one airworthy F-100 and it is this one.
There's actually another one that's flying around painted up in Vietnam era camouflage and was on display at the Reno Air Races this year. I don't remember who it belonged to, but I think was based at Stead Field or Carson City NV if I remember correctly. I also have a picture, but it doesn't have the A/C registration or meet Anet's photo posting criteria.
KC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 11705 posts, RR: 52 Reply 21, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 21307 times:
Quoting planenut767 (Reply 20): I don't remember who it belonged to, but I think was based at Stead Field or Carson City NV if I remember correctly.
Would it be a single seater, like maybe a F-100C or F-100D?
planenut767 From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 59 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 21276 times:
Yes it is a single seater, not sure of the model type.
dlednicer From United States of America, joined May 2005, 505 posts, RR: 7 Reply 23, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 21152 times:
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N29UB, a MiG-29UB should fly for the first time any day now:
The fellow restoring it and his brother each own a MiG-23 (N223ML and N23UB):
"If goods do not cross borders, soldiers will" - Frederic Bastiat
25 sovietjet: Wow! This is the one in Seattle right? Are they also planning on flying the Mig-23s?
26 jwenting: the correct answer is in fact a resounding NO. In many countries the ownership of military equipment (even with any weapons systems removed) is illega
27 DiamondFlyer: Perhaps in your neck of the woods. Heck, right now, I could go out and buy 2 L-39's cheaper than 1 brand new Cessna 172. A quick look at any of the v
28 HKA098: I would love to see that Mig-29 at an air show on the East Coast of the USA. Something like that has to cost around $1500.00 an hour to operate. Wow!
29 sovietjet: Much more. The Mig-29s operated as a fleet by various air forces cost around $20,000 an hour. A private one might cost even more. Just the fuel for a
30 HKA098: $20,000.00 per hour? Wow! No wonder many Eastern European nations retired them for older aircraft. I have read that the time between overhaul for the
31 dlednicer: Yes, the MiG-29UB is in the Seattle area. The MiG-23s are kept in Florida and are flown.
32 HaveBlue: That is patently incorrect. F-4 Phantom, F-5, F-86, F-100, F-105, A-4, MiG-15, 17, 19, 23, 29, Su-27, Draken, Panthers, Cougars, etc. All are 'old us
33 HaveBlue: Damn and forgot one of the more impressive ones, the F-104s flown by StarFighterWorldwide that I've seen fly in person, based out of Clearwater, FL.
34 n92r03: Is this the same "Starfighters" that is referred to in the above posts? Pretty cool, but based out of Cape Canaveral- http://www.starfighters.net/
35 HaveBlue: Yes it is. During the late 90's they were based at Clearwater and I had been to their hangar, they had one single seat and one two seater flyable and
36 cpd: Tell that to those here who own things like Gloster Meteor. That's a fighter jet. And a lot of people do own / fly old fighter jets. Maybe in your co
37 n92r03: At PIE I'm guessing? I never knew that and always check on PIE when I'm in the area. Have noticed all kinds of gems at PIE over the years. Most recen
38 HaveBlue: Yep, exactly. I knew they were based there and went to talk to the guys who owned them, hangar was open but nobody home. They had the 2 painted up ni
39 gphoto: Are you sure? You can even buy and operate nuclear bombers if you want: Ok, that last one does not really count Best regards, Jim
41 PRFlyer: Larry Ellison, CEO of Oracle, owns and flies a SIAI-Marchetti SA211. http://www.bonniepowell.com/ellison.html
42 L410Turbolet: Isn't there a private Hawker Hunter in the UK as well?
43 n92r03: After that, he was quoted as saying "I don't always drink beer, but when I do I drink Dos Equis".
44 MD11Engineer: Even in your own country I know of a private company, which operates several L-39 jet trainers and uses them in a target towing role for the Dutch Na
45 Larshjort: On danish register, no. We have a Leet 29 OY-LSD and a Fouga Magister OY-FGA. In 2005 the Fouga was badly damaged by a fire shorly after takeoff. The
49 GPHOTO: Speaking of flying F-104 Starfighters, I read in the latest issue of Flypast of two that are being shipped from Europe to the USA recently. They are r
50 KC135TopBoom: I hope someday some F-15s, F-16s, F/A-18s, F/FB-111s, and Tornados will be flying in civilian hands, too.
51 Poadrim: This is sooooooo inappropriate, but I would not hesitate a second to blow a dude to get a F-14 TOMCAT! With that said, is there any F-14 for sale?
52 HKA098: U.S. DoD will not allow the private operation/ownership of any F-14. Reason being is that they are afraid a source of spares and the spares themselve
53 KC135TopBoom: I think all the USN F-14s are gone now, except for the gate guards. Perhaps Iran will sell you one?
54 HKA098: All former USN F-14's are either at Davis Monthan AFB or in museums around the country.
55 connies4ever: Not just Buc's, but Lightnings and Hunters as well: http://www.thundercity.com/ I think 650mph at 50ft over the water would definitely qualify as a r
56 KC135TopBoom: Some have moved onto their new life as Bud Lite cans............
57 HaveBlue: One is here at nearby Deland, FL at the airport. While technically a 'museum' its really just an F-14 parked outside of a very small building that ha
58 HKA098: The small museum at Quonset Point, N. Kingstown RI has an F-14 among it's collection as well. A great, but small museum, which is highly recommended.
60 HaveBlue: That is awesome! Any details, like where its based, who owns it, where it will be flying.
61 dvincent: This F-14 gets wheeled out to the ramp every year for the RI Airshow as well.
62 sovietjet: based at Quincy, IL , owned by Air USA and will be used with the military as an aggressor. More information can be found in the official press releas
63 chuchoteur: To be fair, the FAA is really quite flexible and understanding about former military aircraft being put on the civilian register, under Experimental c
64 checksixx: I think there is one on display in Japan...
65 hka098: I'd like to see that http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,140944,00.html
66 chuchoteur: I wouldn't. So sad to see it go like that...
67 TheSonntag: Red Bull has a private Alpha Jet wing for demonstrations. The ejection seats are disabled, though.
68 checksixx: Sure, no problem...Naval Air Facility Atsugi, Japan
69 hka098: That must be recent. Google Earth does not show the aircraft outside.
70 checksixx: Shows up on Google... http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...532&spn=0.001545,0.002401&t=h&z=19
72 71Zulu: Here's a vid, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq92ZC5cYoM
73 HaveBlue: That is awesome! We don't even have our own 4th generation aircraft privately owned, yet we have a MiG-29. Nice!
74 sovietjet: Yes, in that video at around 0:31 when they are showing the cockpit view of the takeoff you will see a car on the left parked on the taxiway. That be
75 KPDX: First off, nice shots! Second, I watched a video of the Mig's first takeoff, but from a different angle. Did you notice how unstable it looked after
76 checksixx: Well fighters aside, if I won the lottery, I'd pick up one of these little gems... http://www.controller.com/listingsde...1989-SHORTS-TUCANO-MK1/11616
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