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Air Conditioning In Military Jets?  
User currently offlineTwalives From United States of America, joined May 2001, 175 posts, RR: 6
Posted (12 years 1 month 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3537 times:

Stupid question, but I was wondering whether military jets (bombers, fighters, survelliance, transport, etc) had air conditioning for the crew?

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User currently offlineJohnM From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 357 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 years 1 month 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3416 times:

They sure do. Airplanes are almost intollerable in hot climates without it. Also many mil airplanes are a dark color, and they really soak up the heat. The old European camo that C-5s had for example, increased temps inside to almost an intollerable level on a hot sunny day. Sometimes interior trim panels would melt in the troop compt from the heat. It would take a very long time to cool the airplane down in flight without A/C.

User currently offlineLt-AWACS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 1 month 16 hours ago) and read 3308 times:

yes the E-3 does, though at 30,000ft with the massive cooling air we need, we have the heat on, not the a/c, though at descent I have seen the flight engineer make it snow, more than once, it is pretty cool when snow is coming out of the ceiling vent slats.

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User currently offlineDw747400 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1267 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (12 years 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3256 times:

Even if the crew is comfortable, it takes a ton of cool air to keep the electronics cool. The crew chief I worked with at Andrew's described how important it was to keep the computers cool... he never once mentioned the pilot.

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User currently offlinePaulinbna From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 1114 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (12 years 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3238 times:
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Lucky airforce the army chinooks and Black hawks don't have airconditioning if you don't count the blades going around  Big grin

I know this from first hand I worked on the Chinook.

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User currently offlineBsergonomics From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2002, 462 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3202 times:

One of the Tornado pilots told me that when they were in the Gulf, between the briefing room and getting the ECS on, they lost a litre of sweat.  Wow!

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User currently offlineJohnM From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 357 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3195 times:

You are right Paulinbna about the helicopters.One minor addition is that UH-60Q models have A/C. They are the dedicated air ambulance airframes. Also AH-1's, now gone, also had a/c. All that window area made it a nice little airborne cooker without ECS. I think there was a pretty good EGT penalty however, and quite a bit of airspeed was lost due to the bleed air flow.

User currently onlineLMP737 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 4711 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (12 years 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3158 times:

The F-14's ECS system is located on the right hand side of the fuselage below and behind the RIO. There are two heat exchangers located inboard of the two intakes. If you look at top view pictures of the Tomcat they appear to be "Venetian blind" style vents.

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User currently offlineTwalives From United States of America, joined May 2001, 175 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (12 years 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3142 times:

thanks everyone, this is great information

User currently offlineMuddydawg From Portugal, joined Jan 2003, 56 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3080 times:

The avionics of the C-17 are so protected from heat that a warning horn goes off and the Left and Right AV busses trip if the temp is over 90 degrees. It can be over-ridden BUT, I sure wouldn't want to be the one making that decision to overheat millions of dollars worth of black boxes.

User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (12 years 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3174 times:

The answer is NO. Not all planes do. I was watching a special on discovery channel and they said the F-18's cockpit reach 120 degrees sometimes cause they DONT have ac.


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