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Which KC-135 Is This?  
User currently offlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12884 posts, RR: 46
Posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6605 times:
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I snapped this KC-135 at Phoenix Sky Harbor (PHX/KPHX) back in early 2006. I'm struggling to work out what the serial is.

It looks like 71466, which would make it 57-1466, except the KC-135 with that serial was never built. Anyone know what the full serial is? Thanks!

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User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1938 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6579 times:

Well... According to the Scramble DB, 57-1466 was built as a KC-135A, flying with the 7th BW. However, this plane was written off March 8, 1960, so it seems unlikely you saw this plane at PHX... 

Searching trough the whole KC-135 production list didn't provide me with an alternative, so I see your struggle. I'm just as puzzled.

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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12181 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 6512 times:

I believe the tail number reads 71456, which would make her # 57-1456.

User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 6479 times:

I would bet on this: KC-135R s/n 57-1486 is assigned to the 197 ARS of the AZ ANG.

User currently offlineHaveBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2124 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6390 times:

The tail number is more than clearly 71466 imo. Absolutely not a 56 as I can see the closed back, and not 86 as you can see both the last 2 numbers are identical.


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User currently offlineunattendedbag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2342 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6366 times:

Quoting scbriml (Thread starter):
I snapped this KC-135 at Phoenix Sky Harbor (PHX/KPHX) back in early 2006.

did you get a shot of the nose?



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User currently offlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12884 posts, RR: 46
Reply 6, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 6317 times:
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Quoting unattendedbag (Reply 5):
did you get a shot of the nose?

Here you go. I don't think it will be much help though due to the heat haze.
KC-135R Nose



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User currently offlineebj1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1932 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 6256 times:

If 57-1466 was written off, is it possible this tail number was painted incorrectly when the plane went in for paint?


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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12181 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6232 times:

Quoting ebj1248650 (Reply 7):
If 57-1466 was written off, is it possible this tail number was painted incorrectly when the plane went in for paint?

No, that is not possible. The USAF does have a history of swapping tail numbers on some aircraft, the SR-71s did it many times. But in the end, the original tail numbers always ended up painted back on the airplane.

Tail numbers are an accounting system used to track the actual history and life cycle costs of each individual airplane. This includes actual flying hours, cycles, maintenance, modifications, problems, and scheduled and unscheduled PDM. When an airplane is transferred from one unit to another, all of its records goes with it to the gaining unit.

I still believe the tail number is 57-1456 on this KC-135R.


User currently offlineSpacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2982 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6219 times:

I'm gonna have to disagree with KC and Haveblue.

57-1486 in 2006 (same year as photos) with AZ fin flash:


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57-1456 from 2004 and 2007. By 07 it was based up in Michigan at Selfridge.

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I think the original pic is too wonky to make out the number correctly, but since 71456 never had the arizona fin flash, it can be definitively ruled out.



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User currently offlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12884 posts, RR: 46
Reply 10, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6072 times:
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Quoting LifelinerOne (Reply 1):
Well... According to the Scramble DB, 57-1466 was built as a KC-135A, flying with the 7th BW. However, this plane was written off March 8, 1960, so it seems unlikely you saw this plane at PHX...

OK, the list I looked at showed it as "canx". But that fits, and it clearly isn't 57-1466 despite it looking very much like it.

Quoting HaveBlue (Reply 4):
both the last 2 numbers are identical.

They certainly look it, which just adds to the confusion!



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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12181 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 5995 times:

Quoting scbriml (Reply 10):
OK, the list I looked at showed it as "canx". But that fits, and it clearly isn't 57-1466 despite it looking very much like it.

Try this list. KC-135A, 57-1466, assigned to Carswell AFB, TX crashed one nm short of Rwy 35 to Carswell, on what is now SH-183 in Fort Worth, on 6 March 1960. It hit a building and some power lines. If it were landing to the south, on Rwy 17, it would have crashed into Lake Worth.

http://airrefuelingarchive.wordpress...135-history-of-destroyed-aircraft/


User currently offlineunattendedbag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2342 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5944 times:

Quoting Spacepope (Reply 9):
57-1486

I agree.



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User currently offlineHaveBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2124 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5887 times:

It is 1466, not 86 or 56. Damn clear as day to me.


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User currently offlineSpacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2982 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5882 times:

Quoting HaveBlue (Reply 13):
It is 1466, not 86 or 56. Damn clear as day to me.

Yes, most logical thing. An airframe written off 50 years ago instead of one that actually served in the AZ ANG at that time, based off a super blurry pic.

I don't buy it.

Has to be a poor pic (no offence to the thread starter, it's the best you could come up with) of 57-1486



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